Pacer Withdrawals: The list (Reference)

[Scottish-Exile]

I'm seeing posts on Twitter that 142 055 is off for preservation at the Foxfield Railway.

 

[NorthernSpirit]

Updated Saturday 20th June 2020 showing 142 units 010, 073, 075, 076 and 082, class 143 units 601, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 610, 614, 623, 624 in store at Landore and 142055 in preservation at Foxfield Railway.

Has 144001 going to be preserved too?

Class 142 - All remaining units in service are operated by Transport for Wales.

001 - Unit preserved. Due to move to the National Railway Museum in York.
002 -
003 - in storage at Eastleigh. Is this unit set to be preserved by a private owner still?
004 - in warm storage at Blackburn King Street. Unit to be preserved, location unknown, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
005 - First to be withdrawn, now scrapped (updated as of 7th December 2019)
006 -
007 - in storage at Eastleigh.
008 - Scrapped (Collided with a class 87 at Winsford in 1999).
009 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
010 - in storage at Landore.
011 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
012 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
013 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
014 - In storage at Eastleigh (transfered from Gascoigne Wood)
015 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
016 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
017 - Unit preserved at East Kent Railway.
018 - in warm store at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
019 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
020 - Unit preserved by the Waverley Route Heritage Association
021 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
022 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
023 - Unit to be preserved at Plym Valley Railway?, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
024 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
025 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
026 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
027 - Unit preserved by Chasewater Railway as a spare parts donor for 029 and 030 + any other Pacer they aquire.
028 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway
029 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
030 - Unit preserved at Chasewater Railway
031 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
032 - In storage at Eastleigh (transfered from Gascoigne Wood)
033 - Converted to a Police Training Unit by South Wales Police at Bridgend rugby pitch.
034 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
035 - Off Lease 06/03/20 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, must be used with PRM Compliant unit
036 - Unit to be preserved at East Kent Railway, in storage at Gascoigne Wood - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
037 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
038 - Unit preserved at the Mid Norfolk Railway
039 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
040 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
041 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
042 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
043 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
044 - Scrapped, second class 142 unit to be dismantled at CF Booths (the first being 005).
045 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
046 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
047 - Off lease 06/03/20 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood.
048 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
049 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
050 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
051 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, must be used with PRM Compliant unit..
052 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
053 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
054 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
055 - Off lease 06/03/20 - to be preserved at Foxfield Railway, unit had to work with a PRM Compliant unit.
056 - was in storage at Gascoigne Wood, now at Eastleigh.
057 - Scrapped, Newport Docks
058 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
059 - Scrapped (Collided with buffer stops at Liverpool Lime Street in 1991.)
060 - Unit preserved by Wensleydale Railway.
061 - in storage at Gascoigne Wood, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
062 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
063 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
064 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury
065 - Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
066 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
067 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
068 - Currently at Neville Hill TMD, Leeds - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
069 -
070 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
071 - Currently being used as route learner unit between York and Scarborough, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
072 -
073 - in storage at Landore.
074 -
075 - in storage at Landore.
076 - in storage at Landore.
077 -
078 - must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
079 - Spare parts unit at Landore TMD.
080 -
081 -
082 - in storage at Landore.
083 -
084 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
085 -
086 - Spare parts unit at Canton TMD.
087 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
088 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
089 - In storage at Eastleigh (transfered from Gascoigne Wood)
090 - in warm storage at Blackburn King Street, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
091 - Unit preserved by Rushden Historical Transport Society.
092 - Scrapped, Newport Docks.
093 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury.
094 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
095 - in warm storage at Heaton TMD, must be used with PRM Compliant unit.
096 - Scrapped, EMR Kingsbury. The last of the class lost for good.

Class 143 - A unit is to be preserved at the Swindon & Cricklade Railway, subject to confirmation.
601 - in storage at Landore.
602 -
603 -
604 - in storage at Landore.
605 - in storage at Landore.
606 - in storage at Landore.
607 - in storage at Landore.
608 - in storage at Landore.
609 -
610 - in storage at Landore.
611 -
612 -
613 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire near Nailsea & Backwell in 2004).
614 - in storage at Landore.
615 - Scrapped (Unit caught fire in 2005).
616 -
617 -
618 -
619 -
620 -
621 - Was in use as a temporary messroom at Exeter St David's.
622 -
623 - in storage at Landore.
624 - in storage at Landore.
625 -

Class 144 - All units stabled at Neville Hill TMD, can run on specified routes and can run solo.
001 - Was in warm storage at Keighley, now at Worksop. Unit named "Penistone Line Partnership"
002 - In warm storage at Keighley.
003 - unit to be preserved at the Great Central Railway at Ruddington.
004 - unit to be preserved at Aln Valley railway, Alnmouth. (In warm storage at Keighley)
005 - In warm storage at Keighley.
006 - Unit to be preserved at the Cambrian Railway.
007 - Unit to be preserved at the Cambrian Railway.
008 - Currently in storage at Heaton as a three car unit, centre car originally from 021.
009 - In warm storage at Keighley.
010 - In warm storage at Keighley.
011 - unit to be preserved at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway.
012 - 144 Evolution has full PRM modifications. In storage at Keighley. (Possibly the last ever Pacer in service?)
013 - In warm storage at Keighley.
014 - In warm storage at Keighley.
015 - In warm storage at Heaton.
016 - In warm storage at Keighley.
017 - unit to be preserved at the Appleby Frodingham Railway. First three car Pacer to be preserved.
018 - In warm storage at Keighley.
019 - In warm storage at Keighley.
020 - In warm storage at Heaton.
021 - Currently operating as a two car unit, centre car has be placed in the middle of 008.
022 - In warm storage at Keighley.
023 - In warm storage at Heaton.
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[Scottish-Exile]

Updated Saturday 20th June 2020 showing 142 units 010, 073, 075, 076 and 082, class 143 units 601, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 610, 614, 623, 624 in store at Landore

As per my comments in post #28, they're more Stabled than Stored.

142 076 & 082 along with 143 605 are heading off from Landore to Canton tomorrow morning for exams. There will be further moves over the next 2 weeks for the rest of these units, in readiness for them being utilised when the timetable is changed on 5th July.

 

[PHILIPE]

As mentioned earlier 143621 at Exeter is back in traffic. Can the list be updated, please.

 

[Geeves]

004 and 095 are now back at Newton Heath with 150001 going the other way.

 

[Scottish-Exile]

142 076, 142 082 and 143 605 left Landore for Canton this morning.

143 606, 607 & 624 left Landore on 10/06 for Canton.

Stabled at Landore currently:

142's 010, 073 & 075 (along with Spares donors 012 & 079)

143's 601, 604, 608, 610, 614 & 623

 

[ValleyLines142]

142051 has made it's way down to Newport.

 

[david l]

142065/68/71/87 now at Springs Branch having gone HT-NH-SP today

 

[ValleyLines142]

142 076, 142 082 and 143 605 left Landore for Canton this morning.

143 606, 607 & 624 left Landore on 10/06 for Canton.

Stabled at Landore currently:

142's 010, 073 & 075 (along with Spares donors 012 & 079)

143's 601, 604, 608, 610, 614 & 623

Are there any TfW Pacers left at Landore now? I imagine they've all been returned to Canton for the enhanced timetable that started on Monday!

 

[Scottish-Exile]

The 2 'for spares' units 142 012 & 079 are here still.

Of the 143's: 602 & 622 are here and serviceable.

142 010 & 073 along with 143 604 & 623 are still here but in need of repair / new wheelsets etc so not likely to be in traffic anytime soon.

 

[Colby James]

Also I wonder when will see a TFW Pacer saved I want to see either the 142 or 143 class of TFW saved oneday.

I hope either possibly 142002 or 006. 010. 069, 072, 073, 074, 075, 076, 077, 080, 081, 082, 083 or 085 as in either possibly one of these 142’s or either the 143’s 601 or 602, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609, 610, 614, 616, 622, 623, 624 or 625 weather only one of these from Tfw when withdrawn I hope oneday one of these TFW’s I saved to a Heritage Railway in the near future although it needs to be in good mechanical condition first.

 

[Colby James]

I also heard from fleet details or in table of withdrawals mentioning that Pacer 142056 might be getting preserved or saved at Eastleigh however I don’t know her owner yet it is unknown who owns it but does someone know this.

It said in the Wikipedia of br class 142

 

[Jim]

Contact suggests that 143618 is counting down engine hours at the moment it seems, constantly being thrown on low mileage Taunton and back ECS crew moves.

 

[PHILIPE]

Contact suggests that 143618 is counting down engine hours at the moment it seems, constantly being thrown on low mileage Taunton and back ECS crew moves.

That seems rather far fetched considering GWR 143s have dispensation to run until the end of 2020.

 

[Jim]

It's merely a choice if you elect to believe me or not, but in July it only did 4 (?) Days of normal service trains....

 

[bussikuski179]

Does anyone know whether the 144e will stay in service after 2020 or will it be withdrawn like everything else? It is PRM compliant after all.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

@bussikuski179 welcome to the forum. Politically expedient to withdraw them but any promise made pre COVID could be said to be null and void.

 

[SteveyBee131]

Does anyone know whether the 144e will stay in service after 2020 or will it be withdrawn like everything else? It is PRM compliant after all.

It's compliant to a degree. I can't remember the specific details, but it still has several things that make it need a PRM dispensation.

It also wouldn't be wise to have a single unit of a particular type, as it would make things like maintenance and traction knowledge a logistical nightmare.

Therefore it is safe to say it will be withdrawn along with the rest of the 144s, when the time comes

 

[bussikuski179]

That’s unfortunate. It seems that I’ll never be able to go on a Pacer.

 

[StevieH500]

I will miss the pacers

 

[StevieH500]

You can't beat the draft on a winter's day through bus doors

 

[43096]

That’s unfortunate. It seems that I’ll never be able to go on a Pacer.

You’re not missing much!

 

[Ashley Hill]

That’s unfortunate. It seems that I’ll never be able to go on a Pacer.

There are examples that are or are planned to be preserved so you will be able to ride on one somewhere. It'll just take a bit of planning to see what is running and where. The list at the start of this thread shows the preserved Pacers and their locations.

 

[Roger B]

That’s unfortunate. It seems that I’ll never be able to go on a Pacer.

There were plenty running around in Exeter today! And likely to be so for some time to come.

 

[bussikuski179]

Yep, well right now a trip to Exeter is pretty much impossible. It’d involve a 3 hour flight, HX to Paddington then an IET to Exeter. It doesn’t seem bad, but I wear glasses and having a face covering on makes them really fog up and 7-8 hours of that just doesn’t sound too good. When this pandemic is over I’ll definitely fly over for a Pacer ride.

 

[Jumpin]

I saw 142 087 on Friday at Piccadilly station in Manchester, not sure but i think it was running with a 150 to rose hill

 

[NorthernSpirit]

I'll be updating the list soon to add any changes since it was last updated in late June, I've had so much on that I haven't had chance to.

 

[The_Train]

Would anyone happen to have a list to hand of the 142's and 144's that are currently operational with Northern please?

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Would anyone happen to have a list to hand of the 142's and 144's that are currently operational with Northern please?

All 144s are out of use currently, stored mostly at KWVR but with a handful elsewhere. Mostly are classed as being in "warm store" but before too long crew knowledge will lapse. A pint at the West Riding at Dewsbury station says we won't see another 144 carry passengers for Northern.
Not sure on the 142s, but some are still in use I believe.

 

[The_Train]

All 144s are out of use currently, stored mostly at KWVR but with a handful elsewhere. Mostly are classed as being in "warm store" but before too long crew knowledge will lapse. A pint at the West Riding at Dewsbury station says we won't see another 144 carry passengers for Northern.
Not sure on the 142s, but some are still in use I believe.

Oh, I thought some of the 144s had been moved from KWVR for a return to service. Guess not haha. Thanks for the info