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PHILIPE

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Somebody waiting to alight who keeps pressing to Door Open button before the light indicating the doors have been released comes up.
 
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PR1Berske

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Somebody waiting to alight who keeps pressing to Door Open button before the light indicating the doors have been released comes up.

That's not bad manners as much as it's very British behaviour. Like picking up your bag 15 minutes before your station so the person next to you knows you want to depart without the need to talk out loud.
 

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Passengers who tap the door open button whilst the train is still moving. That's not ignorance, just stupidity.
 

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Passengers who tap the door open button whilst the train is still moving. That's not ignorance, just stupidity.
I'd press a button on a 'bus while the vehicle is moving. It doesn't do as much on a train, but I don't know why anyone should be expected to guess this. More to the point, pressing the button doesn't inconvenience anyone else (unless you're standing in front of the cabinet with the door controls in it, and refuse to move when asked by the guard), so I wouldn't associate it with bad manners.

I have been the person who takes time storing luggage correctly when there are still a number of people waiting to board at the same door. On a 153 which was almost empty when I first got on. :oops:
 

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So I sat down, woman looks up and says (I cant remember exact words now) "Excuse me - this is a confidential discussion, do you mind?"
At least they were there first. Not on the railway but at a social function SWMBO and I arrived fairly early and took some empty seats. Later a group came and sat either side of us and complained loudly about our "rudeness" in intruding on their family group.
 

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Somebody waiting to alight who keeps pressing to Door Open button before the light indicating the doors have been released comes up.

I can't be the only person who's witnessed someone looking for a button, or assuming the doors automatically open on a HST?
 
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At least they were there first. Not on the railway but at a social function SWMBO and I arrived fairly early and took some empty seats. Later a group came and sat either side of us and complained loudly about our "rudeness" in intruding on their family group.

No doubt in an effort to intimidate you into moving so they get the seats!

Empty carriage and Im sat on a table. Drinking couple board and sit with me talking very loudly while Im trying to quietly do some work. I choose to move and I get the slating off them because I was in their space. Hmmm...
 

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I saw one on Tuesday evening while travelling home from Manchester Piccadilly, the service was delayed by the driver being taken ill and a replacement having to be found and them having to wait out his break period before actually driving. A young woman who didn't look too pleased with being delayed by 10 minutes then proceeded to vociferously complain to the guard about being made late, she got off at either Reddish North or Brinnington so it's not like she was making a connection. Anyway she was so ott with her complaining that she was warned by the guard that if she wished to continue her journey that she should cut the attitude. Well done to the guard for keeping his cool, I would probably have just chucked her off or snapped back at her.
 

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I can't be the only person who's witnessed someone looking for a button, or assuming the doors automatically open on a HST?

I've been that person, somehow managed to get into my 30s without ever needing to stick my head through a door to open it.

The door buttons are also a tad counter intuative, on lifts (and road crossings) you press one, it then lights up, and then later the door opens - a behaviour you encounter daily for years - on the railway you press them, they fail to light up, you press then again, still don't work, train stops, you press again, still nothing, then they light up and the doors fail to open - eh?
 

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The worst thing about the London subway is people coughing and sneezing without covering their mouth and nose, and people who are about to enter the subway and don't even bother to let the passengers get off the train. They just squeeze through without a care in the world for anyone other than themselves. Sorry, rant over.
 

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I had a fault on a train, was at terminus station, people had already boarded but I had to Aux off then on again. Part of the process is that the lights will go off and doors will close and lock. Of course I had made announcements prior, but one lady came storming up to me "why have you closed the doors 5 minutes before departure? I'm sick of you always leaving early", politely and nicely as I could be I replied "I am trying to rectify a fault on the train, the train is completely switched off. If you notice there are no lights on inside, I will be opening the doors again soon. Also, if I was about to leave I would not be standing up with my cab door open". She then went off on one about no announcements or notice about it, FFS she had come on to the platform as I was halfway through the procedure. I didn't feel guilty about turfing her out when I could reset and had to run empty back to the depot.
 

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No doubt in an effort to intimidate you into moving so they get the seats!

Empty carriage and Im sat on a table. Drinking couple board and sit with me talking very loudly while Im trying to quietly do some work. I choose to move and I get the slating off them because I was in their space. Hmmm...

This sort of behaviour with groups turning up and trying to subtly (or less subtly) intimidate others to move is quite common, unfortunately. Disgusting manners IMO.
 

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I was walking through a train at Paddington once, and as a couple were sitting down st a table (which had no reservations) a chap comes back from putting his case on the rack and says "I was sitting there!", then turns to me and says "That was my seat, I was there first".

He didn't appreciate my intervention, as I asked him which seat he had been sitting in, and when he indicated the window seat, I told the man in the outside seat he would need to stand up to let the chap in - not the response that was expected, as he obviously wanted the table to himself!
 

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I was on a train back in February when a guy comes and sits next to me at the table I was at and whips out his Archbold. A massive one too! Now I didn't mind him sitting next to me, nor did I mind him getting out his Archbold, but what got me was that he wouldn't let me have a good look at it. Pure bad manners in my Law Book!
 

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I was on a train back in February when a guy comes and sits next to me at the table I was at and whips out his Archbold. A massive one too! Now I didn't mind him sitting next to me, nor did I mind him getting out his Archbold, but what got me was that he wouldn't let me have a good look at it. Pure bad manners in my Law Book!

Is this a euphemism?
 

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Now I didn't mind him sitting next to me, nor did I mind him getting out his Archbold, but what got me was that he wouldn't let me have a good look at it. Pure bad manners in my Law Book!

Rightly or wrongly there's no law against bad manners. He would probably have charged you for looking at it.
 

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I hate it when people make comments at me when they walk past. I have been spat at by drunks when coming home from work.
 

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I see people even sit in somebody elses seat even in first class! Completing my journey from Bromley South to Stoke tonight, with a last change at Stafford (first class paid for by the employer as it was the cheapest), got on to the 19.02 xc to Piccadilly, to find my booked seat occupied! Plenty of room in the coach so it wasn't an issue, and I was only on for 15 minutes, but I would have expected better from first class passengers!
 

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One annoyance is when waiting at a station and the train is on the platform waiting for a crew, some just come up and stand right in front of you as close as possible to the doors when you were there before them, this happened a few weeks ago when I was at Newcastle when waiting for crew to come to get on a Northern 156 to go back home.


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I see people even sit in somebody elses seat even in first class! Completing my journey from Bromley South to Stoke tonight, with a last change at Stafford (first class paid for by the employer as it was the cheapest), got on to the 19.02 xc to Piccadilly, to find my booked seat occupied! Plenty of room in the coach so it wasn't an issue, and I was only on for 15 minutes, but I would have expected better from first class passengers!
I don't see why, rudeness has no class barriers, in my experience!

Anyway, having a First Class train ticket is no indication of class (in any sense of the word), it just means one bought a First Class ticket. The Railway is quite egalitarian in that sense - we will sell a First Class ticket to anybody!
 
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I see people even sit in somebody elses seat even in first class! Completing my journey from Bromley South to Stoke tonight, with a last change at Stafford (first class paid for by the employer as it was the cheapest), got on to the 19.02 xc to Piccadilly, to find my booked seat occupied! Plenty of room in the coach so it wasn't an issue, and I was only on for 15 minutes, but I would have expected better from first class passengers!

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I don't see why, rudeness has no class barriers, in my experience!

Anyway, having a First Class train ticket is no indication of class (in any sense of the word), it just means one bought a First Class ticket. The Railway is quite egalitarian in that sense - we will sell a First Class ticket to anybody!

Including people like the poster you were responding to, who found First was cheaper than Standard. Perhaps the person occupying the seat was not "natural First Class Material" but was there for the same reason?
 

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I don't see why, rudeness has no class barriers, in my experience!

Anyway, having a First Class train ticket is no indication of class (in any sense of the word), it just means one bought a First Class ticket. The Railway is quite egalitarian in that sense - we will sell a First Class ticket to anybody!

Being in first class is no indication of having such a ticket, either!
 

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A friend recounted to me yesterday an experience he had in South London. His train pulled into the station at morning rush hour, the doors began to close. Nothing happens. The driver asks people to stand clear of the closing doors, still nothing happens.
It becomes obvious that in his carriage, two 'chav like' young men are forcibly holding the doors open and refusing to move.

The driver comes down and asks them to move - their response "we ain't moving till our brother gets here, then the train can go'. Driver calls the police, passengers plead, beg, ask the two individuals to move, and they repeatedly and menacingly told passengers to sit down and shut up, in more intimidatory language. Eventually after 7 minutes (!) the brother arrives, gets on the train, at which point the doors are shut.

Sadly the police hadnt arrived and the driver chose to depart rather than further delay the train, meaning these individuals were essentially rewarded for their selfishness. I can only hope the police are able to identify and punish them in due course.
 
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