100andthirty
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Just to emphasise that none of the class 319, nor 317, nor 320/1/2 had any type of rheostatic or regenerative brake.
OK, I stand corrected.Just to emphasise that none of the class 319, nor 317, nor 320/1/2 had any type of rheostatic or regenerative brake.
It hasntJust to recap, have we had any confirmation of why training has stopped on these units?
Really?It hasnt
Who to believe?All training on Flex's suspended I've been told on good authority.
It hasnt
Yes. We want them now, and as many as can possibly be justified...Sad that this project keeps getting so much negative attention, and without verified evidence.
So apart from the inordinate delays in comparison with the quoted timescales, on another thread we hear that the first 769 test run in South Wales broke down after less than 5 miles today. Yes it’s a test but presumably not a test of whether the unit can get from A to B under its own power.Sad that this project keeps getting so much negative attention, and without verified evidence.
The 230s, questionable reliability or not, are in service and have been for almost a full year now. Meanwhile the "we'll get it done quicker than that" 769s are still, ??? weeks/months away. I've no idea. From the stories on here I've heard, it could be 3-4 weeks, it could be 6-9 months, it might even be never.Neen Sollars said:Abject failure. Same as the 230`s. Its always the passengers who have to suffer most.
Abject failure. Same as the 230s. Its always the passengers who have to suffer most.
It did stop last week due to no working units being available.It hasnt
It did stop last week due to no working units being available.
Did you ever use Hull Trains before the 802s arrived?I can hardly wait for the TOC's justification for cancelling services being "due to no working units being available".
The 230s, questionable reliability or not, are in service and have been for almost a full year now. Meanwhile the "we'll get it done quicker than that" 769s are still, ??? weeks/months away. I've no idea. From the stories on here I've heard, it could be 3-4 weeks, it could be 6-9 months, it might even be never.
25 might be a bit soon, I think 35 is probably fair, but that's very nearly upon us of course.230`s entered service on the Marston Vale line 4 or 5 months late and had poor reliability during the hot summer. Whether the fix has been successful will be shown this summer. The Transport for Wales order for 5x3 car 230 units is now running 12 months late, and that is if they start to be delivered in the next few weeks. In service July 2020 at the earliest I think. On another thread discussing the Channel 4 Dispatches last night, one poster stated the designer was aghast at the prospect of turning them into 769`s saying they were life expired after 25 years.
Correct it was suspended due to all units out of action. It has now resumed but obviously playing catch upIt did stop last week due to no working units being available.
Training on the CAF stock and 769s are suspended due to the virus.That could mean a pretty speedy entry assuming driver training doesn't take too long!
Assuming the 769 project is eventually successful, are there any more lines they could be introduced on to make use of more electrified lines?
I was thinking for Thames Valley branches as well as North Downs line and Didcot-Oxford, cascading 165s to Exeter subject to route clearance as I think they would be ideal for Devon metro. Any remaining 143s could be withdrawn and 150s could be (sadly) retired. Will be a shame to see the 150s go as I think they’re fantastic trains but no units will last forever.
Wabtec have provided an update, with all 8 Northern 769s completed and 4 accepted by Northern. Seems definitely not 11 units now (which I think is old news anyway).
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