PSBs not near a station

[Sad Sprinter]

Are there any power signal boxes that aren't located at or near a station? I know Sharnbrook is one example, but most I think are near a station complex.

 

[jfollows]

Manchester South

 

[Magdalia]

West Midlands Signalling Centre at Saltley.

For a long while Trent would have counted.

 

[The Puddock]

Tweedmouth and Tyneside IECC (Gateshead) spring to mind immediately.

 

[Dr Hoo]

Are there any power signal boxes that aren't located at or near a station? I know Sharnbrook is one example, but most I think are near a station complex.

I wasn’t aware that there was ever a power signal box at Sharnbrook. It was controlled by West Hampstead for a very long time.

 

[ExRes]

Are there any power signal boxes that aren't located at or near a station? I know Sharnbrook is one example, but most I think are near a station complex.

When did it exist?

 

[Sad Sprinter]

I wasn’t aware that there was ever a power signal box at Sharnbrook. It was controlled by West Hampstead for a very long time.

Perhaps an inaccuracy from Video 125's Midland Mainline drivers eye view. I'm sure they mentioned WH controlled as far as just north of Bedford when Sharnbrook PSB took over.

When did it exist?

I thought it was a modern one

 

[Gloster]

Perhaps an inaccuracy from Video 125's Midland Mainline drivers eye view. I'm sure they mentioned WH controlled as far as just north of Bedford when Sharnbrook PSB took over.



I thought it was a modern one

I thought that West Hampstead fringed with Leicester to the north of the Sharnbrook section of West Hampstead’s control.

 

[ExRes]

I thought it was a modern one

Thanks, it must be post 2010 as I don't remember anything between West Hampstead and Leicester

 

[midland1]

Are there any power signal boxes that aren't located at or near a station? I know Sharnbrook is one example, but most I think are near a station complex.

The last box at Sharnbrook as far as I know was the Midland box which closed in 1981.

 

[matchmaker]

West of Scotland Signalling Centre.

 

[bramling]

Are there any power signal boxes that aren't located at or near a station? I know Sharnbrook is one example, but most I think are near a station complex.

Ferrybridge.
Folkestone East (arguable whether a PSB though)

 

[The Puddock]

West of Scotland Signalling Centre.

Does WSSC really count though? It's not even five minutes walk from Springburn (through the scary underpass). You can see the station from the west end of the compound and you can see WSSC from the station. If we're considering WSSC fits the bill then boxes like Cathcart, Kilmarnock and Paisley, which are also very close to a station as the crow flies but not actually located directly alongside, would also count.

 

[Cheshire Scot]

Does WSSC really count though? It's not even five minutes walk from Springburn (through the scary underpass). You can see the station from the west end of the compound and you can see WSSC from the station. If we're considering WSSC fits the bill then boxes like Cathcart, Kilmarnock and Paisley, which are also very close to a station as the crow flies but not actually located directly alongside, would also count.

Manchester South likewise very close to Stockport station - even though it does not control the station nor adjacent junctions.

Has Trent PSB gone? Over a mile from Long Eaton. (sorry, not been that way for a while).

 

[Gloster]

I think we need to define ‘near’: distance, walking time, or what?

 

[John Webb]

I thought that West Hampstead fringed with Leicester to the north of the Sharnbrook section of West Hampstead’s control.

There was a temporary box at Sharnbrook 25/10/87 to 5/11/87! (mentioned in "The Leicester Gap", by M Vanns, 2018.) Leicester PSB was operational from December 1987 and worked to West Hampstead to the south and Trent PSB to the north. Control of Leicester PSB transferred to East Midlands ROC at Derby at some point - I've not got the date to hand at present. (Possibly 2013 when Trent PSB was closed?)

....Has Trent PSB gone? Over a mile from Long Eaton. (sorry, not been that way for a while).

Yes, closed in 2013 with operations transferred to the East Midlands ROC.

 

[Sad Sprinter]

I think we need to define ‘near’: distance, walking time, or what?

I mean not "at" a station. Or named after a station.

 

[Kingspanner]

Tyne Yard?

 

[30907]

Folkestone East (arguable whether a PSB though)

A panel box, anyway, though it had a station when it opened.
As were Shortlands Jn and Chislehurst Jn from the same period, the latter being a fair way from any station.

 

[TSG]

However you define ‘not at or near a station’ I think Basingstoke Rail Operating Centre (BROC) qualifies. Feels like you’re walking halfway back to Hook!

 

[Falcon1200]

Does WSSC really count though? It's not even five minutes walk from Springburn (through the scary underpass).

I would have said more like 10 minutes walk, to allow time to dodge the dive-bombing seagulls and flasher (which one of our staff encountered at the subway once!) And the odd thing with the WSSC of course is that it is located within a triangle of lines but controls none of them.

Motherwell SC, when it still existed, was a bit of a walk from the station.

 

[Freightmaster]

Tyne Yard?

No PSB at Tyne yard - signalling on that part of the ECML is controlled from Tyneside ROC,
located directly across the Tyne from Newcastle station, as shown here:

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[D6130]

Glasgow Central - when it was open. Although named after the station, it was nearly a mile away in the fork of Bridge Street Junction.

Cowlairs - when it was open. Situated in a triangle of lines some distance from Springburn station.

Healey Mills - when it was open.

Tees Yard - if still open. Not sure if it is.

Saltley - when it was open. Now superseded by the West Midlands Signalling Centre (see post #3)

 

[The Puddock]

I would have said more like 10 minutes walk, to allow time to dodge the dive-bombing seagulls and flasher (which one of our staff encountered at the subway once!) And the odd thing with the WSSC of course is that it is located within a triangle of lines but controls none of them.

I used to do it in 5 minutes when I worked there but I suppose it depends how quickly you walk. Of course it would have been a lot quicker and safer if they had built the walking route off the end of the station platform as was promised several times.

 

[Freightmaster]

Tees Yard - if still open. Not sure if it is.

Still clinging on, but only controls the lines in the immediate vicinity of the yard these days;
the through lines from Thornaby to Middlesbrough are controlled from York ROC.




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[Peterthegreat]

Manchester South likewise very close to Stockport station - even though it does not control the station nor adjacent junctions.

Has Trent PSB gone? Over a mile from Long Eaton. (sorry, not been that way for a while).

Yep. Closed in 2013! Work transferred to Derby.

 

[Krokodil]

I think we need to define ‘near’: distance, walking time, or what?

Can the building see or be seen by the station?

 

[Elecman]

Wembley Signalling Centre

 

[59CosG95]

Perhaps an inaccuracy from Video 125's Midland Mainline drivers eye view. I'm sure they mentioned WH controlled as far as just north of Bedford when Sharnbrook PSB took over.



I thought it was a modern one

My hunch is that there's probably a similar sounding PSP (Principal Supply Point) at Sharnbrook, for signalling power purposes.
There is also Sharnbrook MPTSC, which does traction power.

 

[The Planner]

Depends on the definition of a PSB, but Marston Vale probably qualifies.