PV Validity/Super Off Peak

[steadmane]

I am travelling from Wadhurst to Banbury on a return portion super-off-peak ticket tomorrow. As I am at a meeting at 3pm it is highly unlikely I will be at Marylebone or Paddington before the 4pm Super-Off-Peak cut-off. Rather than hang around until after 7pm, can I go Waterloo-Reading-Banbury. I am pretty sure this is a permitted route and nowhere in the PV validity does it mention London Waterloo restrictions. It can't be that easy though can it?

Thanks!

 

[furlong]

It can't be that easy though can it?

"Journeys via Reading" section?

 

[steadmane]

This section ?

"By any train from Reading
except those timed to depart
before 0700, from 0930 until
1630, or after 1930"

That's not specifically stopping me leaving Waterloo is it? And I don't even understand the logic behind these rules when I do leave Reading!

 

[sonic2009]

Do you plan to travel Wadhurst to London Bridge or Waterloo East, Break your journey and then travel London Waterloo - Banbury via Ascot, Reading & Oxford?

 

[steadmane]

I plan to travel Wadhurst to Waterloo East, BOJ here, Waterloo to Reading,
Reading to Banbury merely as a way of avoiding the 4-7pm Super Off Peak ban at Paddington and Marylebone with the bonus of not crossing London (meeting is BFI/Southbank).

Failing that I will go see a movie and travel after 7pm!

 

[bb21]

It is quite clear that you cannot leave Reading until 1930, if you decide to leave from Waterloo.

 

[steadmane]

I understand that is quite clear regarding leaving Reading but my question was can I travel from London Waterloo at any time after 4pm?

Doesn't matter, I will print off the PV validity and if challenged, etc, etc.

 

[bb21]

I understand that is quite clear regarding leaving Reading but my question was can I travel from London Waterloo at any time after 4pm?

Yes, you can. Bringing a copy of the restriction text with you is a good idea.

 

[LexyBoy]

Fine as a way of getting out of London sooner, you'll not get good any earlier though. The journey from Waterloo makes an interesting change if you've not done it before, but I would make sure you take a good book!

 

[furlong]

It is quite clear that you cannot leave Reading until 1930, .

If the quote is accurate, I read it the opposite way - that you can't use it after 1930.

By any train from Reading
except those timed to depart
before 0700, from 0930 until 1630, or after 1930

 

[greatkingrat]

This section ?

"By any train from Reading
except those timed to depart
before 0700, from 0930 until
1630, or after 1930"

They seem to have mucked up the wording of this restriction - taken literally the only trains that you can catch from Reading are the peak trains from 0700-0930 and 1630-1930!

 

[jkdd77]

If the OP needs to travel back during the 'barred' period, then an excess fare to a SVR would be £9 (assuming no railcard is held), allowing travel on any afternoon train from London Marylebone and most trains from Paddington to Banbury, as per restriction code WM.

 

[bb21]

If the quote is accurate, I read it the opposite way - that you can't use it after 1930.

Ha missed that.

Great news for the OP though if he is up for a fight.

 

[jkdd77]

The wording of restriction code PV on National Rail (the definitive source of validity) appears to differ from the wording on brfares.com.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/pdfs/OPR_PV.pdf

Journeys via Reading
Return Travel
Monday to Friday
By any train from Reading except those timed to depart between 16:30 and 19:30.

So, it is not permitted to join such a train.

 

[LexyBoy]

The train from Waterloo takes so long anyway that travelling after 1930 shouldn't be a problem. Time for a crafty pint at the Tired Guineas if you're lucky...

 

[CyrusWuff]

The wording in the National Rail PDF is out of date, as it doesn't refer to the morning peak restriction from London/Reading.

A quick check suggests that it is coded as intended in the fares database, however, as is restriction code PU.

 

[jkdd77]

The wording in the National Rail PDF is out of date, as it doesn't refer to the morning peak restriction from London/Reading.

A quick check suggests that it is coded as intended in the fares database, however, as is restriction code PU.

I don't mean to take this thread off-topic, but I always thought that the relevant restriction code shown on the National Rail site is the definitive and official version:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/46383.aspx

National Rail Enquiries (NRE) is the definitive source of information for all passenger rail services on the National Rail network in England, Wales and Scotland

Therefore, I don't see how the 'missing' northbound morning restriction forms part of the contract for travel, and question whether it could currently be validly enforced.