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This is a rather depressing long read in the Railway Gazette shedding light on why, despite all of the focus on climate change and COP 26 recently, the UK's rail network has been marginalised and was largely ignored in the recent budget in favour of yet another fuel duty freeze, and cutting tax on domestic passenger flights. Under the guise of 'Great British Railways', the Treasury is taking control of the railways, and this article claims that despite the hype and rhetoric, GBR will be micro-managed by the DfT like never before, with the Treasury pulling DfT's strings.

https://www.railwaygazette.com/uk/r...rates-as-treasury-takes-control/60218.article

Rail’s growth agenda evaporates as Treasury takes control​

UK: As the COP26 climate summit opens in Glasgow, following the UK government’s Comprehensive Spending Review, fears are growing across the rail industry that Treasury pressure on cost and revenue will lead to a smaller railway emerging in the post-pandemic era. Having spoken to a range of senior figures across the industry over recent weeks, almost all on condition of anonymity, Rail Business UK can confirm widespread concern that significant investment spending is coming to an end after three decades of growth in rail use, with potentially significant implications.

It is an early Saturday morning in late September. Two successive London – Manchester trains operated by Avanti West Coast are ready to depart from London Euston; one leaves full and standing, the next has only the unreserved Coach U offering any free seats for flexible ticket holders. Perhaps most telling of all, this was a weekend with no Premier League football fixtures, traditionally a major driver of weekend patronage on the route.

Prior to the Covid-19 pandemic, AWC operated a standard pattern of three trains per hour from Euston to Manchester and Birmingham New Street; today, only two trains/h have been restored to the service plan. Even more stringent cuts have occurred on the London – North Wales route. But there is little indication of when or even if the full West Coast Main Line timetable will return; Rail Business UK understands while more Manchester trains will be restored, no additional Birmingham services will be introduced at the annual timetable change in December, for example.

Alongside planned service reductions at other operators including South Western Railway and TransPennine Express, the AWC situation is being seen as a microcosm of a wider policy shift. The future shape of England’s railways looks set to be defined by the Treasury on the basis of affordability, rather than the need to attract more passengers to the most sustainable mass transport mode.

Revenue is all that matters​

Railways and governments across Europe are working to attract passengers back to rail in the wake of the pandemic, spurred by the European Commission’s declaration of 2021 as the EU Year of Rail. Many are offering discounted or even free tickets to encourage people to try trains again. In some cases governments are launching subsidised multi-modal transport offers to encourage a transition away from high-pollution, low-occupancy transport to support green objectives; Austria’s Klimaticket initiative which officially launched on October 26 is a high-profile example.

The contrast in the UK could hardly be starker. In his Budget statement on the same day, Chancellor Rishi Sunak announced a 50% cut in the Air Passenger Duty levied on domestic flights, while fuel duty for road vehicles remained frozen for a twelfth successive year. In its response, the Rail Delivery Group noted that taxes make up 40% of the cost of traction electricity for rail, while aviation fuel is exempt from duty.

It seems clear that the Treasury’s primary concern is railway revenue, not the environment, industry sources suggest. Having spent many billions of pounds sustaining rail services through the various pandemic lockdowns, finance ministry officials are now keen to recoup their losses as far as possible as the recovery takes hold.

Rail Business UK understands that far from incentivising passengers to come back to rail, the Treasury remains convinced pre-pandemic ridership will return unaided, with little concern expressed over changing working patterns affecting commuter operators.

‘What’s underpinning Treasury thinking is the view that patronage will come back on its own. Therefore, why would you spend money getting it to come back when it’s going to come back anyway?’ says one rail manager. Another senior figure echoed this view. ‘There’s such a funding gap at the moment, they’re very much focused on getting income into the system.’

This focus on income is having a significant impact on the front line, with operators under intense scrutiny through the emergency operating contracts put in place to protect services during lockdown. Micro-management has been applied to almost every penny of expenditure, requiring operators’ press releases and station posters to be approved by staff at the Department for Transport.

One senior engineer told Rail Business UK that £500 of repairs to his company’s rolling stock fleet had been delayed by multiple requests for justification from government officials, delaying the restoration of fleet capacity and almost doubling the cost of the repair work because of the additional administrative time taken.

‘Unproven’ fares reform stuck​

As lockdowns eased earlier this year, the operators and RDG started to present evidence to government intended to support development of a flexible season ticket aimed at commuters who were coming back to city centre workplaces fewer than five days per week. The operators suggested these tickets should come with savings on a par with a conventional season ticket, but this was rebuffed by the Treasury.

The final product, officially welcomed by operators but privately derided, offers a discount of around 10% and has been described by one source as ‘pretty much providing two tickets for the price of two’. Even this meagre discount was seen as a victory within the industry; in the lead up to its launch one insider had reported that Treasury officials wanted no more than a 5% incentive.

Since then, further attempts to push on with the long-awaited reform of the national fares system have run aground.

Proposals from the industry to revive rail use are reported to have been completely ignored, while commercial specialists at the train operating businesses with experience in growing ridership over the past 25 years of increasing patronage have been sidelined under the government-led contracting model now in place.

‘Part of the problem are the tight controls over us all’, says a director at one operating business. ‘[Government] needs to allow the people who know what they’re doing to have some headspace and that’s the conversation we’re trying to have with them. I pay these people a lot of money to do a job that, before we were nailed down, they were doing pretty well. We need to use their expertise.’

Not only has the fares reform overall failed to progress, but operators have also made little headway in pointing out initiatives being deployed elsewhere in Europe, such as national railcards and multi-journey products. The government’s response has been to ask the industry to prove that these have not been revenue abstractive, although sources suggest that DfT is much more open to exploring these options than the Treasury.

One insider suggests that ‘the Treasury didn’t believe the original business case [for RDG’s fares reform package] because it obviously can’t be proved, we don’t know how it will be received’. This is driven by a perception in Whitehall that farebox revenue is now ‘Treasury money’, rather than the industry’s or DfT’s income.

This divergence of opinion between the two departments was in evidence at the opening of the relocated Railway Industry Association offices in central London on September 2. Pressed by guests to commit to further industry investment, Rail Minister Chris Heaton-Harris promised only that he would ‘continue to make the case’ to the Treasury.

Great British Railways confusion​

While the Treasury’s grip over the rail sector tightens, industry leaders are increasingly concerned by DfT’s role in shaping the new Great British Railways organisation which will underpin the post-franchising landscape.

Amid reports of ‘meddling’ by ministers, an expected announcement at last month’s Conservative Party conference in Manchester of the senior team to lead the transition to GBR failed to materialise.

Confusion abounds over the role and structure of GBR, although industry insiders suggest DfT intends to take a ‘command and control’ role over the railway. This way, GBR would attempt to deliver a railway within a strict budget set for it by the Treasury, with operators having very little scope to innovate or market their offering as they have done over the past two decades.

‘What we’re trying to do with GBR is to say “don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater”’, notes one insider. Others caution that there will be no return to the perceived ‘halcyon days’ of British Rail, where the rail sector was largely left to its own devices, with rail professionals in charge who reported to government at intervals. GBR is widely expected to be a government-led entity where DfT sets the agenda, leads on timetables and fares and calls on the concession holders to fall in line.

This approach is prompting concern from the industry about future leadership of the rail sector. ‘Who would want to run the railway under those conditions?’ asks one senior manager. ‘The operators won’t be given the opportunity to be commercial.’ A particular concern is the lack of incentive for operators to strive to maximise ridership, because any shortfall in revenue would simply be a problem for the Treasury.

Do less with less​

Establishing GBR is expected to take several years, not only because of the primary legislation required, but also, according to industry insiders, because the Treasury feels that a wait for two or three years should see farebox revenue recovering to pre-Covid levels.

In the meantime, the final outcome of this autumn’s Comprehensive Spending Review is expected to send a message to DfT that it has less money to spend on rail infrastructure and services. Forced to cut its cloth accordingly, the current ‘80% timetable’ reflected on routes such as the WCML will become the new base, because there is no money to bring back 100% of pre-Covid services. The fear is that the resulting sustained plateau in passenger numbers will be used as justification for a long-term reduction in capacity and a consequent lowering of the industry cost base.

‘We will end up with stagnation or reasons for Treasury not to grant any money to invest in the network to make it bigger or better or able to cope with more trains, because it will take the view that the status quo will run fine for the next 10 years or so’, explains one senior insider.

This view goes a long way towards understanding the drive to reduce railway staff numbers through the current Voluntary Severance scheme.

Another industry leader reports that they are ‘under huge pressure. There are always efficiencies that you can get and the TOCs haven’t really been through that for a number of years. If we don’t do it ourselves, the Treasury will do it to us.’

Insiders say even DfT understands this dynamic, and that on this occasion department officials are working with the industry to address the situation. ‘If we don’t prove to [the Treasury] that we’re making savings, they’ll unleash it on DfT, and that’ll not work for anybody’, the insider adds.

‘Maintain trains less’​

Meanwhile, Rail Business UK understands that government officials have been undertaking ‘fact finding missions’ to depots to assess how much work is being undertaken. This is raising alarm bells; many have reportedly taken place in the middle of the day, when by definition the least rolling stock work is done. Comments made during these visits have reportedly included questions such as ‘perhaps money could be saved by maintaining trains less?’ In an industry proud of its safety record, this is understandably worrying engineering and technical teams.

Many managers have told Rail Business UK that they expect pressure to reduce staff to be followed by a similar demand for fewer trains to be kept in the main line fleet. ‘Don’t be excited about orders for new trains’, one observer comments. ‘If you don’t have to approve any new trains and you don’t have to approve any infrastructure work, then you could probably get rid more of the workforce because you’ll need fewer drivers or conductors.’

‘Middle class toy’ under control​

Summing up, the consensus is that current transport policies are coming more from the Treasury than from DfT. The recent collapse of the planning for the May 2022 East Coast Main Line timetable is a further example of the trends in action, report consultants who worked on the recast.

The ‘free hand’ to create a new timetable came with much of the thinking already filled in, one manager reports. ‘We got a proposal that communities hated, and which train operators detested because of its impact on performance and its poor utilisation, but it gave LNER many millions of pounds in additional revenue every year, and of course that’s taxpayers money. It was effectively a Treasury-led timetable that generated additional revenue to cut the deficit that the railway has at the moment. It just so happened to be a really poor timetable for operators and for passengers.’

While much of the focus of concern is on the operating businesses, the pressure to cut costs and potentially limit investment is industry-wide. ‘The big pressure will be [on] the industry to deliver growth in an innovative and cost effective way’, says another senior figure. ‘Clearly the Treasury has also got fed up with Network Rail. Yes, they stay within their budgets but their budgets are massively padded. So they’re delivering on budget, but we’re getting far less for each pound they spend than we ever have.’

There is a widespread belief that the pandemic has given the Treasury a taste for control. ‘A lot of people there think that the railway system in this country was coming at a very high cost’, says one industry leader. ‘Behind the NHS, it’s probably the one of the biggest costs to central government. It was seen very much as a “white middle class toy”, because it was mostly taking them to and from work.’

Having long believed the growth in the railway’s cost base was unsustainable, the Treasury has used Covid-19 as a chance to ‘put its hands much tighter around the industry’. Industry leaders fully expect DfT to be told, ‘you’ve only got this amount of money, you decide how much railway you want to spend it on’.

The start this week of COP26 — in the formal proceedings of which the rail sector is barely mentioned — looks unlikely to shift the dial, as two decades of unprecedented growth on Britain’s railway seems set to come to a shuddering halt.
 
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"Behind the NHS, its probably one of the biggest costs to central government"

This is absolute balderdash.

Look at any pie chart of government expenditure you'll see that the vast majority is spent on social security and pensions, NHS etc. The proportion spent on the railway is a tiny slither.
 

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The problem is that if we don't get back to reasonable passenger numbers then there's going to be a need for more funding than if we reduce tickets to attract people to the railways.

Of course the other issue is that whilst we've seen a 30% fall in passenger numbers, due to the growth seen that's only rolling things back to 2007/08, a time when there was much being done to increase capacity.

Whilst it may take a few years to get back to 2019 numbers there's a balance to be had between reduced services (probably still mainly really justified on some London peak hour services) and having services so that people can use them.

In terms of the green agenda we certainly shouldn't be cutting rail (or for that matter bus) services. All that will do is further increase car useage (remembering that whilst the population has grown by about 17% since 2000 the numbers of cars have grown by 25% in that time).

"Behind the NHS, its probably one of the biggest costs to central government"

This is absolute balderdash.

Look at any pie chart of government expenditure you'll see that the vast majority is spent on social security and pensions, NHS etc. The proportion spent on the railway is a tiny slither.

Depends on how you count it.

If you are counting gross government spending then it's £15bn. However if you count net spending (i.e. taking into account any income from the railways) then it's typically around £4bn to £5bn with the vast majority being on enhancements to the rail network.
 
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This bit struck me, the Civil Service doesn’t have a reputation for making heroically brave assumptions...
the Treasury remains convinced pre-pandemic ridership will return unaided, with little concern expressed over changing working patterns affecting commuter operators.
.. yet that seems to be an extremely brave assumption.
 

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The problem is that if we don't get back to reasonable passenger numbers then there's going to be a need for more funding than if we reduce tickets to attract people to the railways.

Of course the other issue is that whilst we've seen a 30% fall in passenger numbers, due to the growth seen that's only rolling things back to 2007/08, a time when there was much being done to increase capacity.

Whilst it may take a few years to get back to 2019 numbers there's a balance to be had between reduced services (probably still mainly really justified on some London peak hour services) and having services so that people can use them.

In terms of the green agenda we certainly shouldn't be cutting rail (or for that matter bus) services. All that will do is further increase car useage (remembering that whilst the population has grown by about 17% since 2000 the numbers of cars have grown by 25% in that time).



Depends on how you count it.

If you are counting gross government spending then it's £15bn. However if you count net spending (i.e. taking into account any income from the railways) then it's typically around £4bn to £5bn with the vast majority being on enhancements to the rail network.

However, either of those figures would be a slither in comparison to the real big spenders of government. That's not too say that the big slices aren't needed, however any suggestion that rail is somehow "the biggest expenditure after the NHS" needs to be closed down.
 

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This is why some of us have been saying for nearly two years that cost control is now the most important factor about any new decisions. Unfortunately, a lot of people in the railway industry have a vested interest in it staying as it is.

This bit struck me, the Civil Service doesn’t have a reputation for making heroically brave assumptions...

.. yet that seems to be an extremely brave assumption.
I think that it's more just denial than anything else. The reality is that the revenue that's not back yet isn't coming back soon, it will be years before it builds up again.
 

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However, either of those figures would be a slither in comparison to the real big spenders of government. That's not too say that the big slices aren't needed, however any suggestion that rail is somehow "the biggest expenditure after the NHS" needs to be closed down.

Indeed, Education spend £72bn, whilst Transport's total is £33bn.

Scotland and Defence are both mid £40bn's, so yes, Rail is fairly small.
 

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The operational support to the railway from 1 Apr 2020 to 24 July 2021 (16 months) was £10.7 billion*, and is still running at about £462 million a month.
For the whole of 2019/20, pre-covid, it was £300 million.
No government can continue to absorb that amount of cost indefinitely.
operational-payments-to-tocs-under-emergency-agreements-and-nrcs.ods (live.com)

If we are to have a reduced railway, say the initial 10% cost reductions the Treasury is seeking, I hope somebody is worrying about how the surplus rolling stock is going to be cascaded/stored/scrapped so that the leasing/maintenance costs are removed from the books, not to mention the associated train crew and depot resources.
What do you do with spare 12-car class 700s on an 8-car railway? Or class 80x on 27-year leases? Why does LNER need new trains, or even the Mk4s it has retained, when services are being reduced?
What do Avanti do with class 807s which will not be needed for new services?
Does NR stop all the platform extension upgrades as train lengths will reduce, not increase?
And many similar questions, so far unanswered.

* That excludes Scotrail, TfW, and the local concessions, so the total for "GB rail" will be significantly higher.
 
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If we are to have a reduced railway, say the initial 10% cost reductions the Treasury is seeking, I hope somebody is worrying about how the surplus rolling stock is going to be cascaded/stored/scrapped so that the leasing/maintenance costs are removed from the books, not to mention the associated train crew and depot resources.
What do you do with spare 12-car class 700s on an 8-car railway? Or class 80x on 27-year leases? Why does LNER need new trains, or even the Mk4s it has retained, when services are being reduced?
What do Avanti do with class 807s which will not be needed for new services?
Does NR stop all the platform extension upgrades as train lengths will reduce, not increase?
And many similar questions, so far unanswered.
Rolling stock is an interesting one, given the nature of some of the leases a 10% reduction in services won’t directly lead to a 10% reduction in rolling stock costs.
 
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The rail sector has not been particularly good at showing that it can manage costs well: HS2, XR, EWR, E&G Electrification, ETCS and GWEP spring immediately to mind as do IR issues about the role of the guard. Of course, TOCs haven't been able to do much about staff productivity issues because they don't have the balance sheet strength to cope with much IR headwind. So it's perhaps no great surprise that there is renewed focus on managing rail costs down...

However, one might recall the work done by Steer for the SRA almost 15 years ago on how much of Northern's costs could be reduced if train services were cut: the answer, not much since the fixed costs of rail are so high. It was only if one closed lines altogether would one save much: running fewer trains saves a few pennies, but it's £50 notes and upwards that HMT are looking for here. I don't suppose anyone really is contemplating line closures in practice, there has been a genuine crossparty agreement for some time that rail is about providing more trains to more places, not closing routes down.
 

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The operational support to the railway from 1 Apr 2020 to 24 July 2021 (16 months) was £10.7 billion*, and is still running at about £462 million a month.
For the whole of 2019/20, pre-covid, it was £300 million.
No government can continue to absorb that amount of cost indefinitely.
operational-payments-to-tocs-under-emergency-agreements-and-nrcs.ods (live.com)

If we are to have a reduced railway, say the initial 10% cost reductions the Treasury is seeking, I hope somebody is worrying about how the surplus rolling stock is going to be cascaded/stored/scrapped so that the leasing/maintenance costs are removed from the books, not to mention the associated train crew and depot resources.
What do you do with spare 12-car class 700s on an 8-car railway? Or class 80x on 27-year leases? Why does LNER need new trains, or even the Mk4s it has retained, when services are being reduced?
What do Avanti do with class 807s which will not be needed for new services?
Does NR stop all the platform extension upgrades as train lengths will reduce, not increase?
And many similar questions, so far unanswered.

* That excludes Scotrail, TfW, and the local concessions, so the total for "GB rail" will be significantly higher.

The whole of the last period in the 2019/20 was ~£300 million (mid to late March 2020), that's very different to the whole of 2019/20.
 

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There was always the risk that GBR could potentially lead to actually more, not less micro-management dependent on the whims of the Treasury and/or the government of the time. Whoever sets up the function at the beginning has a critical role because that is no doubt a structure that will probably last for 20 years at least.

There's some downright bizarre decisions (the APD domestic cut), as well as a classic amount of short-termism and it never ceases to amaze me how endemic this is in the UK.
 

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There was always the risk that GBR could potentially lead to actually more, not less micro-management dependent on the whims of the Treasury and/or the government of the time. Whoever sets up the function at the beginning has a critical role because that is no doubt a structure that will probably last for 20 years at least.

There's some downright bizarre decisions (the APD domestic cut), as well as a classic amount of short-termism and it never ceases to amaze me how endemic this is in the UK.
Populist governments, which is what the UK Govt currently is, do not take long term decisions. Populist governments make short term decisions for 'quick wins' aimed at winning the next election.

Unfortunately tackling climate change requires long term, strategic, potentially unpopular decisions. Governments across Europe are taking decisions to boost rail use, as we can see in the article. Whilst the current incumbents are in No. 10 & 11, apart from the hot air rhetoric we've seen from the PM at COP26, don't expect the serious, strategic, long term decisions (e.g. investing in a truly 'green', sustainable, electrified mass transport network such as the UK rail network) that need to be taken for Britain to truly tackle the dire consequences of climate change that are hurtling towards us.
 

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Of course.
I'll have to dig out the whole year figure pre-covid.

If you look at the per km subsidy figures (which only go to 2016) it's about £2bn.

That's broadly the same as the 4 periods already done, however it should be noted that this is up to circa July (not sure the exact dates for each period), where rail use was still quite a bit lower than the circa 70% we are currently seeing.

Yes it's going to be higher than £2bn, however £4bn is likely to be fairly close to the mark and 12 months from (say) September 2021 is likely to still be higher than £2bn but could be circa £3bn.

Yes significant amounts, but probably starting to get close enough that it's probably starting to be politically acceptable.
 

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This bit struck me, the Civil Service doesn’t have a reputation for making heroically brave assumptions...

.. yet that seems to be an extremely brave assumption.
If you substituted "heroically brave" with "accurate", it might make a bit more sense. ;)
 

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The civil service is filled with departments who know what needs to be done and will try and do it, but whose actions are hobbled by the treasury trying to micro-manage the funding (Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy is another one I've come across). I think that there generally needs to be a better "separation of powers" between the treasury and the other Departments that they fund, who are better placed to understand the implications of policy on the ground.

For the railway, even if not a lot is done on enhancing the service for a couple of years, there really needs to be some political push back on the lack of a plan for electrification.
 

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If you substituted "heroically brave" with "accurate", it might make a bit more sense. ;)

I would take that Treasury quote as being a good sign. Sounds like they are prepared to continue funding the railway as passenger numbers recover. The industry probably needs to "play nicely" in the meantime and sensibly remove some costs for now.

I maintain that the worst thing the industry can do is make rash decisions now to try and force a return of passengers when they may return organically (even if that is very slow).

E.g. look low leisure travel has basically returned to normal without really having to do anything beyond a few TOC fare promotions.
 

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If you look at the per km subsidy figures (which only go to 2016) it's about £2bn.

That's broadly the same as the 4 periods already done, however it should be noted that this is up to circa July (not sure the exact dates for each period), where rail use was still quite a bit lower than the circa 70% we are currently seeing.

Yes it's going to be higher than £2bn, however £4bn is likely to be fairly close to the mark and 12 months from (say) September 2021 is likely to still be higher than £2bn but could be circa £3bn.

Yes significant amounts, but probably starting to get close enough that it's probably starting to be politically acceptable.
Whatever the level of subsidy is over the next few years, I do think the treasury and DfT needs to let the railway industry decide how to spend that money, rather than micromanaging spending. For example the article mentions that railway operators have to get DfT approval to put up a poster. Surely railway managers will know more than civil servants what is best for the railway.

Obviously there does need to be some oversight, however in my experience, micromanaging rarely ends well.
 

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Whatever the level of subsidy is over the next few years, I do think the treasury and DfT needs to let the railway industry decide how to spend that money, rather than micromanaging spending. For example the article mentions that railway operators have to get DfT approval to put up a poster. Surely railway managers will know more than civil servants what is best for the railway.

Obviously there does need to be some oversight, however in my experience, micromanaging rarely ends well.
If you were the Treasury, would you let the railway anywhere near that given railway management’s total inability to manage costs that has been demonstrated for many, many years?
 

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If you look at the per km subsidy figures (which only go to 2016) it's about £2bn.

That's broadly the same as the 4 periods already done, however it should be noted that this is up to circa July (not sure the exact dates for each period), where rail use was still quite a bit lower than the circa 70% we are currently seeing.
Last month, the Network Rail figure for the number of passengers was 82%. However, the important point is that the leisure travel market has come back quite strongly, but the TOCs make most of their ‘regular’ income from season ticket sales and commuter traffic. Which has been a lot slower to recover. Hence morning trains are not as full as pre-COVID19, but often trains later in the day may be busy.
 

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If you were the Treasury, would you let the railway anywhere near that given railway management’s total inability to manage costs that has been demonstrated for many, many years?
I think you have to look at the reasons why costs haven't been controlled. It's not that railway managers are specially incompetent. It's that the overall structure didn't incentivise best value (in terms of services and revenue) for overall money spent on the system. The HLOS/SoFA principle adopted in the early 2000s never incentivised Network Rail to reduce cost per unit output at passenger and freight customer level, and the incentives on TOCs were filtered and distorted through the franchise process. Dividing responsibility at government level, with the Treasury in possession of revenues and just giving DfT the responsibility for cost cutting doesn't seem likely to improve the situation. And the likely effectiveness of GBR in creating a more joined up railway seems highly questionable given the amount of micromanagement from government level that's going on - even when it gets its act together, will it be given authority to manage money?
 

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It's that the overall structure didn't incentivise best value (in terms of services and revenue) for overall money spent on the system. The HLOS/SoFA principle adopted in the early 2000s never incentivised Network Rail to reduce cost per unit output at passenger and freight customer level, and the incentives on TOCs were filtered and distorted through the franchise process.
Isn't that a bit simplistic in that the railway was chasing (and indeed keeping up with) growth and hoping to get a better return over the long term? Cutting back was not considered in that context.

And the likely effectiveness of GBR in creating a more joined up railway seems highly questionable given the amount of micromanagement from government level that's going on - even when it gets its act together, will it be given authority to manage money?
Why would it be given that authority? Won't it be asked how cost savings can best be delivered with the money tap being closed off to the maximum extent possible?
 

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Last month, the Network Rail figure for the number of passengers was 82%. However, the important point is that the leisure travel market has come back quite strongly, but the TOCs make most of their ‘regular’ income from season ticket sales and commuter traffic. Which has been a lot slower to recover. Hence morning trains are not as full as pre-COVID19, but often trains later in the day may be busy.

Interesting that NR have higher figures than the government (I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just curious as to how this maybe), is the figure 82% in the public realm?

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Populist governments, which is what the UK Govt currently is, do not take long term decisions. Populist governments make short term decisions for 'quick wins' aimed at winning the next election.

Unfortunately tackling climate change requires long term, strategic, potentially unpopular decisions. Governments across Europe are taking decisions to boost rail use, as we can see in the article. Whilst the current incumbents are in No. 10 & 11, apart from the hot air rhetoric we've seen from the PM at COP26, don't expect the serious, strategic, long term decisions (e.g. investing in a truly 'green', sustainable, electrified mass transport network such as the UK rail network) that need to be taken for Britain to truly tackle the dire consequences of climate change that are hurtling towards us.

I'm not sure I agree with you here. For a government to be 'populist' it would need to enact policies 'in favour of populist opinion'. Corbyn is a left-wing populist and his plan to bring back BR could be considered populist as a renationalised railway rates high in popular opinion. Similarly, Cameron's splurge in railway spending back in the early '10s was certainly long-term and to an extent populist. National infrastructure schemes, to an extent, are inherently populist, and no one was going to disagree with electrifying the WCML.

This plan the Government has for the railways is nowhere near populist. In fact, its plain, old, 'small c' Conservativism. "Watching the pennies" is the inverse of populism and just shows that the Tories' strange vendetta it has had against the railways since the end of the War, bar the Cameron government, is still alive and kicking.
 

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I'm not sure I agree with you here. For a government to be 'populist' it would need to enact policies 'in favour of populist opinion'. Corbyn is a left-wing populist and his plan to bring back BR could be considered populist as a renationalised railway rates high in popular opinion. Similarly, Cameron's splurge in railway spending back in the early '10s was certainly long-term and to an extent populist. National infrastructure schemes, to an extent, are inherently populist, and no one was going to disagree with electrifying the WCML.

This plan the Government has for the railways is nowhere near populist. In fact, its plain, old, 'small c' Conservativism. "Watching the pennies" is the inverse of populism and just shows that the Tories' strange vendetta it has had against the railways since the end of the War, bar the Cameron government, is still alive and kicking.
I disagree with the definition of populism in use here. To me there's an additional quality necessary to just being "in popular opinion" which is that they make simple answers to complex problems. Usually this is by identifying a problem and then setting up a culprit who becomes a popular target despite ultimately not being responsible - such as the European Union, the "Liberal Elites", or religious or ethnic groups who become targets. Populism is about something more than popular policy.
 

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Last month, the Network Rail figure for the number of passengers was 82%. However, the important point is that the leisure travel market has come back quite strongly, but the TOCs make most of their ‘regular’ income from season ticket sales and commuter traffic. Which has been a lot slower to recover. Hence morning trains are not as full as pre-COVID19, but often trains later in the day may be busy.

Part of resolving this problem would be fares reform too; less of a "cliff-edge" between say 0929 and 0931 would mean more even demand and ultimately we might get more people actually back on trains during old "peak time" who may not otherwise have travelled (commuters or otherwise). Commuters into offices at the moment - who are able to be far more flexible with their time - are understandably avoiding the expensive periods when they are no longer a captive audience.

I'm not sure I agree with you here. For a government to be 'populist' it would need to enact policies 'in favour of populist opinion'. Corbyn is a left-wing populist and his plan to bring back BR could be considered populist as a renationalised railway rates high in popular opinion. Similarly, Cameron's splurge in railway spending back in the early '10s was certainly long-term and to an extent populist. National infrastructure schemes, to an extent, are inherently populist, and no one was going to disagree with electrifying the WCML.

This plan the Government has for the railways is nowhere near populist. In fact, its plain, old, 'small c' Conservativism. "Watching the pennies" is the inverse of populism and just shows that the Tories' strange vendetta it has had against the railways since the end of the War, bar the Cameron government, is still alive and kicking.

If national infrastructure schemes are so populist, why is there such a backlash against HS2 with more people talking about "using ££billions for local railways or our NHS"? Partly its poor PR on behalf of HS2, but many people also fail to grasp long-term benefits with expensive initial outlays.
 
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