martinsh
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Well the line to Key West got closed about 1930 due to being demolished by a hurricane ...
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Interesting thought (1935, to be exact -- a dreadful year for closures of "fun" lines worldwide); but what I'm looking for was about a decade and a half earlier, and a very long way from Florida.
DerekC
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1920 was when the US railroads came out of effective nationalisation during WW1. Was it something to do with that?
DerekC
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I have scratched my head and consulted every source I can find but no luck. Presumably it was a victim of some form of rationalisation enforced by the USRA - downgraded to a secondary route, maybe? But then why didn't it recover? The railroads were compensated for their loss of profit, I think. Another clue might be needed!
@DerekC: in fact, the reverse of your scenario -- the railroad was calamitously overloaded as a result of an ill-advised decision by the controlling authority. @AndrewE: ingenious notion; but it was all a purely internally-US thing.
Hint, coming from another angle: the railroad concerned, was standard gauge -- in the midst of, and to quite some extent competing with, a big narrow-gauge concentration.
DerekC
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Thanks - that did help. How about the Colorado Midland Railway? Reading the description, with five summits and gradients of 4% it's not hard to see why it had problems handling all trans-Colorado traffic! I found some pretty spectacular photos of the abandoned route.
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Absolutely right. (One of the few US lines which preferred to style themselves "Railway", not "Railroad".) I've heard, from a Colorado-resident railfan, a slightly different account of the debacle, from that which Wiki gives: per this contact, it wasn't so much the burden being found too great: thus the "new" through traffic being diverted, and most of the line's previous traffic fading away with it -- it was rather, the whole line and its equipment were so much knocked-about and worn out by the vastly augmented wartime through traffic, that the entire set-up was effectively, physically ruined (and the line was financially broke anyway -- no resources for reconstructing, and no meaningful government help); again per this guy, the CM staggered on until 1920, and mostly closed then, rather than Wiki's date of 1918. Whichever way, a sad story.
So, my fellow-US-bureaucrat: your turn, to find another railroad to ruin -- or are you caught up in this damnfool new "Prohibition" thing?
DerekC
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If you walk along Cockspur Street westwards from Trafalgar Square, what railway are you likely to think about?
Spoorslag '70
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The Canadian National Railway, which had their corporate headquaters there?
DerekC
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Very close, but not quite on the button!
Spoorslag '70
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The Grand Trunk Railway has it's branding on the other side of the building...
DerekC
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That's the one! I spotted it years ago (it's in large letters but very high up on the building) and eventually remembered to look it up.
Over to you.
Over to you.
Spoorslag '70
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There is a station on a national railway network in an English speaking country which was both opened and closed this decade, being the only station on the respective network to do so (i.e. no other station was either closed or opened this decade).
Name the station and - for (virtual) bonus points - why it was opened and closed.
Name the station and - for (virtual) bonus points - why it was opened and closed.
DerekC
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This looks difficult. English-speaking but (presumably) small - or maybe not? Can we start by guessing the country? New Zealand?
Spoorslag '70
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It is very small, but not exactly that far away. Is it of any help to note that the country is often seen as part of the UK despite it not beeing part of it?
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It isn't the Isle of Man is it?
Spoorslag '70
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It is indeed the Isle of Man. That should make it rather easier, shouldn't it?
DerekC
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The Manx Electric Railway was closed between Laxey and Ramsey for most of 2008 because of track problems - is that relevant?
Spoorslag '70
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No, I am not counting engineering related alterations. The station was first opened this decade, only to be closed a few years later and only had trains stopping on some days.
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DerekC
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At last - School Hill was the station, I think. Opened in 2012 to allow children to be taken to and from Castle Rushen High School during a bus strike.
Spoorslag '70
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Exactly
DerekC
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OK - my turn then.
Claro had four companions. Three were Yorkshire towns. What was the name of the other one?
Claro had four companions. Three were Yorkshire towns. What was the name of the other one?
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DerekC
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Clue - One of the towns is in Claro.
DerekC
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Another clue - think narrow gauge.
martinsh
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Barber ?
(Locos built by Thomas Green, Leeds)
(Locos built by Thomas Green, Leeds)
DerekC
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Getting close - three of the five were indeed built by Thomas Green, but the other two weren't. Look for where the Thomas Green locos worked.
martinsh
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I think this has to be the Colsterdale Waterworks Light Railway - but I can't find any more information on its locomotives