Railway General Knowledge.

[DerekC]

Still on the theme of named trains - the Lorelei Express was a well-known train from Hook of Holland, one of the first international services to start up in the chaos after WWII. Initially in 1946 it ran to Basel and later to Chiasso in Italy. Less well known is that BR tagged on to the name (very late in the day) and ran a short-lived "connecting service" called the Loreley from Harwich. Where did the UK service run to, what route did it follow and what kind of stock was used?

 

[Marton]

Manchester
Mk1

 

[DerekC]

Manchester was on the route but wasn't the terminus. Not Mk1.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I recall seeing class 156 units with window labels carrying that name, and if they went beyond Manchester I would have to guess at Liverpool.

 

[DerekC]

You are absolutely right about the rolling stock. A 2-car DMU boat train seems a bit bathetic to me! But not Liverpool.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Not Liverpool... Windermere, then?

 

[Marton]

I was going to guess LIVERPOOL too

Not sure whether to guess Holyhead or Blackpool.

I’ll go for Blackpool.

 

[DerekC]

Blackpool is right - specifically Blackpool North. @Marton got the destination, @Peter Mugridge the rolling stock. Over to whichever of you has a question ready.

 

[Marton]

I will defer

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Thank you.

I'll make this one ridiculously easy - and slightly corny for the amusement factor - as nobody wants a convulted one lasting several days over Xmas / New Year do they?


What links a Mk1 carriage with a Mk2 carriage?

 

[xotGD]

Thank you.

I'll make this one ridiculously easy - and slightly corny for the amusement factor - as nobody wants a convulted one lasting several days over Xmas / New Year do they?


What links a Mk1 carriage with a Mk2 carriage?

Coupling, brake pipe, ETH cable, etc.

 

[AndrewE]

Thank you.
I'll make this one ridiculously easy - and slightly corny for the amusement factor - as nobody wants a convulted one lasting several days over Xmas / New Year do they? What links a Mk1 carriage with a Mk2 carriage?

How about the buckeye couplings? First universal application (in UK) was on Mk 1s , whereas RCH lighting connectors and gangways were all in use earlier?
Or (on second thoughts) could it be the standardisation on Pullman gangways for all stock?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

"A coupling" was the bit I had in mind. The clue was the word "links".

Looks like xotGD got there first.... although strictly speaking I should have asked both of you "which one?" as you both gave multiple answers - but like I said, nobody wants convulted long questions over Xmas do they?

 

[xotGD]

Thanks.

Which Class 37 was painted into a Police livery for a TV commercial?

 

[Cowley]

Thanks.

Which Class 37 was painted into a Police livery for a TV commercial?

Ah that’ll be 37093. Painted in supposedly ‘water soluble paint’, which turned out not to be, and required a full repaint into BR blue...

 

[xotGD]

Ah that’ll be 37093. Painted in supposedly ‘water soluble paint’, which turned out not to be, and required a full repaint into BR blue...

Correct! It certainly gave me a surprise the first time I saw it in those colours. Over to you, and Merry Christmas.

 

[Cowley]

Correct! It certainly gave me a surprise the first time I saw it in those colours. Over to you, and Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you too sir!
I think I’d better say open floor, otherwise I’ll probably get in trouble with the family...

 

[DerekC]

OK. Fill in the missing items:

1. Colton
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Marshgate

 

[SteveyBee131]

Order might be wrong but, Junctions between York and Doncaster, possibly?
1. Colton
2. Hambleton North
3. Hambleton South
4. Temple Hirst
5. Joan Croft
6. Shaftholme
7. Marshgate

 

[DerekC]

Spot on, @SteveyBee131. Your clear route ahead.

 

[SteveyBee131]

Cool, thanks!

Before their celebrity status, both Power Cars of the LNER final HST have carried a name. What name did each carry?

 

[SteveyBee131]

It's been a couple of days, so here's a clue:
They both had names linked to the Eastern region.

 

[DerekC]

Well, I am going to guess Bounds Green for one. Not sure about the other.

 

[SteveyBee131]

Not so.

Another clue, they were both nameless until the GNER era, and nameless again afterwards.

 

[xotGD]

Not so.

Another clue, they were both nameless until the GNER era, and nameless again afterwards.

Neville Hill and Heaton?

 

[SteveyBee131]

Only 1 of the ECML power cars was named after a depot (certainly of the GNER ones anyway), it was of course 43100 (which became 43300) Craigentinny.

So another clue, one of the pair that became the celebrities was named after a town with a long railway history. The other, after a county which you could be forgiven for thinking has delusions of grandeur.

 

[Marton]

Yorkshire
Doncaster

 

[xotGD]

Shildon and Humberside

 

[SteveyBee131]

@Marton is right with Doncaster, which was the name carried by 43112/312 while it was with GNER.

So what did GNER name 43006 when it came to the ECML? After a county, which if given it's full title sounds quite grand.

 

[Marton]

Durham. Land of the Prince Bishops