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[Failed Unit]

Only issue would for those who have paid a wee extra for the first class tickets from point to point as the 156s dont have it but that should be way down on priorities to actually getting the trains on

The first class has being missing for a while on many trains. Spt turbos also don't have and they have operated many services alone this week.

 

[me123]

More seats than a 6 car turbo. Speed would make little difference they are not allowed above 80mph anyway at the moment. Give me a 156 over a turbo anyday at the moment.

I'm surprised they've got more seats, TBH! Would have been a fun trip, though. Never had a 156 on a "proper" run out of Queen Street (ie, anything other than Anniesland and Scumbernauld).
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The first class has being missing for a while on many trains. Spt turbos also don't have and they have operated many services alone this week.

Non-FC units operate quite a bit on routes with FC. I've seen it quite a bit on this route, actually, although to be fair most of the time there's a FC unit coupled to a non-FC unit.

Of course, FC passengers would get their money back!

 

[Bittern]

Once again the East Kilbride line was running smoothly despite the weather- only held up at the passing loop for a wee while for another train. The Argyle Line, however, is a mess! First, no Larkhalls again today. Secondly, no Lanarks in sight! Thirdly, Motherwells were late, via Bellshill down by 10, via Hamilton by 5, and very few announcements.

Also, noted only one 334 on the Argyle, with everything else being 318s, thankfully. The extra seats the 318s provide over the 334s were needed!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11906384

Looks like SR ran a 6 car 156 between GLQ and EDB this morning...more reliable?

That picture was taken off RailScot. The train's at Kilmarnock.

 

[First ScotRail]

That picture was taken off RailScot. The train's at Kilmarnock.

Further down, I know the top image is at Kilmarnock...

 

[class156]

There was quite a bit of disruption to ScotRail servicies on the Ayr Line this afternoon. I had went out to try and get a trip on the 1st class 380 in service which I had thought would be going to Glasgow from Irvine it 15:30 but it arrived at that time going to Ayr . So I still went to Glasgow, 334028 turned up 6 mins late. The PIS system was playing up on this particular unit so the driver was making manual announcements. The train then made it's way to Glasgow calling at all stations between Kilwinning and Johnstone, I think it was quite stupid making all servicies to and from Ayr call at those station as they normally have a hourly service and they were recieving a half hourly service which made the train 14 mins late by the time we reached Johnstone which I know isn't too much but some this could have been avoided. So we got into Glasgow Central at 16:19 still 14 mins late. I took a few photos and went elsewhere for about 10 mins. I came back and went to the departures board near the escalators to the low level section of the station. the 17:00 Ayr service was showing as running on time till about 5 mins before the train was about to depart when it was shown as delayed. The 1650 Ardrossan Harbour service was shown as in platform 15 but there were no trails in that platform. So at about 1700 there was an announcement stating that anybody going to Ayr or Ardrossan was advised to get the 1705 train to Gourock and get off at Paisley Gilmour Street. The train in platform 15 at this point was 318265 working on it's own so everbody that was supposed to be going on the Gourock, Ardrossan Harbour and Ayr services all crammed onto the 3 car 318. Thankfully everybody that was going on the service to Ayr easily fitted onto the 6 car 318.

Was i'm saying is that on one service per hour should have called at all stations which would leave one fast service per hourfor the passengers.

 

[The_Stig]

And thats it? They done that last winter.

No. I answered the part of your post that said they isolated through the TMS.

 

[CarterUSM]

No. I answered the part of your post that said they isolated through the TMS.

Of course, but i did say i had skimmed the notice somewhat due to relevancy over interest and time constraints of course. Could you say what else has been carried out?

 

[me123]

Service withdrawals for tomorrow so far:

• Edinburgh-Dundee services
• Edinburgh-Bathgate (nb, only a week until the Airdrie-Bathgate line opens!)
• Services North of Inverness

The following services are also not operating. These do not normally have a Sunday service, but were expected to have additional Sunday services for Christmas shoppers (as happens every year in Glasgow)

• Dalmuir-Springburn
• Glasgow-Whifflet(-Shotts, presumably)

I would expect that the additional services for shoppers won't happen this weekend for obvious reasons. But on a lot of routes, a normal Sunday service could well be in operation (given that what's happening just now is about a normal Sunday service for most places).

 

[Failed Unit]

Yesterday the website was totally different to reality. For Edinburgh you would have expected only services to North Berwick and Glasgow via Falkirk. In reality the fife circle ran as did Stirling. Glasgow services used all stations including Edinburgh Park. Not many passengers on them. Don't know how Inverness got on with it's on return service.

 

[Bittern]

Good to see the Larkhall trains are back!

 

[googolplex]

Anybody know if they're running a replacement bus service for Edinburgh-Dundee/Aberdeen?
The disruption page on the NRE website suggests they might, but the service details only says bus services for Glasgow-Aberdeen.

 

[The_Stig]

Of course, but i did say i had skimmed the notice somewhat due to relevancy over interest and time constraints of course. Could you say what else has been carried out?

Inductors have been replaced with modified ones, seals to stop water ingress have been replaced on the forced air cooling components, new filters are on units to try and stop snow being taken in and winterisation started a bit earlier.

 

[CarterUSM]

Inductors have been replaced with modified ones, seals to stop water ingress have been replaced on the forced air cooling components, new filters are on units to try and stop snow being taken in and winterisation started a bit earlier.

Thanks mate.

 

[me123]

Sparse information on services tomorrow. Once again, I'm not sure if they know what they're doing yet.

• All services between Edinburgh and Glasgow Central via Shotts are suspended. No replacement transport available.
• All services between Motherwell and Cumbernauld are suspended. No replacement transport available.
• An hourly service will operate between Glasgow Central and Paisley Canal, leaving Central at xx:07 and leaving Paisley at xx:30
• All services between Dalmuir and Springburn via Yoker are withdrawn. No replacement transport available.
• An hourly service will operate between Glasgow Central and Whifflet, leaving Central at xx:46 and leaving Whifflet at xx:37
• All services between Edinburgh and Dunbar are withdrawn. No replacement transport available.
• All services between Glasgow Queen Street and Anniesland via Maryhill are withdrawn. No replacement transport available.
• All services between Edinburgh and Newcraighall are withdrawn. No replacement transport available.
• All services between Edinburgh and Bathgate are withdrawn. Alternative road transport will operate to all stations.
• Limited stop services between Glasgow Central and Gourock, leaving Gourock at xx:23 and Central at xx:25, are withdrawn. Local services will operate.

 

[Failed Unit]

Attempted to get into Glasgow today. The 0730 Edinburgh - Glasgow was just a 3 car 170 as was the 0730 Glasgow to Edinburgh. Both crammed full with people unable to board. I asked what the chance of seeing a 6 car set today was answer slim. So yes the are running Edinburgh - Glasgow via Falkirk today but they might as well not bother stopping between the 2 cities as a 3 Car half hourly service is not going to work in the peaks!

 

[me123]

It's gotten really bad again today weather-wise. In addition to the above;

• All services between Inverness and Wick are withdrawn. Alternative road transport will operate.
• All services between Inverness and Kyle of Lochalsh are withdrawn. Alternative road transport will operate.
• Local services between Edinburgh and Dundee are withdrawn, with the exception of the 07:20 Dundee-Edinburgh service
• Services between Edinburgh and Perth are withdrawn, with the exception of the 06:39 service via Stirling.
• An hourly service will operate between Edinburgh and Dunblane, departing Edinburgh at xx:33 and Dunblane at xx:58
• All services between Glasgow Queen Street and Dunblane are withdrawn.
• An hourly service will operate between Glasgow Queen Street and Falkirk Grahamston via Cumbernauld, departing Queen Street at xx:21 and departing Falkirk at xx:42. Services terminating at Cumbernauld are withdrawn.
• A half-hourly service will operate between Edinburgh and Glasgow Queen Street, departing both stations at xx:00 and xx:30
• All services between Milngavie and High Street/Bellgrove are withdrawn/ This includes Airdrie limited stop services.
• All services between Dalmuir and Larkhall via Singer are withdrawn. Buses will replace trains between Larkhall and Hamilton Central.
• Services between Helensburgh Central and Airdrie will additionally call at Drumchapel, Drumry and Singer.

There are some improvements today (eg, Whifflets are operating again, Cumbernaulds are operating again, 15 minute service on the North Clyde Line has resumed, there's more buses out where trains can't operate...) but there has been a lot of snow again this morning.

 

[Failed Unit]

Still snowing in the central belt. Not sure why only 3 cars on the Edinburgh - Glasgow a route that would normally be 6 car ever 15 minutes in the peak. Failed units? Daren't couple units together in case they damage the couplers? I think patience is wearing thin now. The 3 cars and the reduced service got most peoples blood boiling on the platform.

 

[me123]

All Whifflet trains now suspended. Living within walking distance of the line, I fully understand why. It's horrendous out there at the moment.
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Paisley Canal suspended.
Cathcart Circle (including Newton and Neilston) suspended.
Queen Street-Falkirk via Cumbernauld suspended.
Argyle line services suspended due to problems at Rutherglen.

Oddly enough, the North Clyde is still doing OK between Dunbartonshire and Monklands. There's a 15 minute service to Airdrie (albeit subject to disruption).
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It's getting really bad now.

Services to East Kilbride and Barrhead are suspended (for the first time)
Services to Ayrshire and Inverclyde are starting and terminating at Paisley Gilmour Street

I reckon that means all Scotrail services in and out of Glasgow Central are now cancelled.

 

[route101]

All Whifflet trains now suspended. Living within walking distance of the line, I fully understand why. It's horrendous out there at the moment.
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Paisley Canal suspended.
Cathcart Circle (including Newton and Neilston) suspended.
Queen Street-Falkirk via Cumbernauld suspended.
Argyle line services suspended due to problems at Rutherglen.

Oddly enough, the North Clyde is still doing OK between Dunbartonshire and Monklands. There's a 15 minute service to Airdrie (albeit subject to disruption).
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It's getting really bad now.

Services to East Kilbride and Barrhead are suspended (for the first time)
Services to Ayrshire and Inverclyde are starting and terminating at Paisley Gilmour Street

I reckon that means all Scotrail services in and out of Glasgow Central are now cancelled.

My mate just said everything out of Glasgow Central has been stopped

I dont know about the buses . Up here in East Kilbride the roads are really bad and ive been sent home from work .

 

[me123]

Problems via Rutherglen. Very little is getting in and out of Glasgow Central, even intercity services are going to Edinburgh instead. Argyle seems to be struggling to get back on with delays of up to 120minutes (!) expected.

 

[route101]

Problems via Rutherglen. Very little is getting in and out of Glasgow Central, even intercity services are going to Edinburgh instead. Argyle seems to be struggling to get back on with delays of up to 120minutes (!) expected.

120 mins. I heard the EK trains are back on !

 

[Train Pilchard]

Train arrived as I got to my station at 8.05 this morning, train arrived at Partick band on 17:00, 2 minutes after I got there. Problems with Scotrail? What problems with Scotrail!?!

This statement will no doubt come back and bite me in the arse tomorrow.

 

[me123]

Things went remarkably well today, unless you were leaving from Glasgow Central or on the Argyle Line to South Lanarkshire. North Clyde was particularly resilient today, given that the roads to Airdrie and Coatbridge were (and, I believe, still are) gridlocked.

You can hardly blame Scotrail for anything today. No-one was prepared for the snowfall in the Central Belt. Many schools opened which shouldn't have (in particular, this one), a lot of people expected to get to work and simply couldn't, a lot of people are stranded at work, ... I think all in all, we should be thankful that Scotrail ran as many services as they did today. Given that people in Central Scotland seem to be travelling at speeds of no more than 2mph on the main roads, that should give you an idea of the severity of the conditions today.

 

[crewmeal]

What's happened to the poor sleepers? Are any services working at all?

 

[MCR247]

All sleepers cancelled last night

 

[me123]

This morning's service updates:

• Motherwell-Cumbernauld Cancelled
• Dalmuir-Springburn via Yoker Cancelled
• Edinburgh-Dunbar Cancelled
• Glasgow Queen Street-Anniesland via Maryhill Cancelled
• Glasgow Central-Gourock; Limited Stop services Cancelled
• Inverness-Kyle of Lochalsh Cancelled
• Inverness-Wick Cancelled
• Edinburgh-Dundee Cancelled except the 07:20 service
• Edinburgh-Perth Cancelled except the 06:39 service via Stirling
• Edinburgh-Dunblane reduced to an hourly service, departing Edinburgh at xx:33 and departing Dunblane at xx:58
• Glasgow-Dunblane Cancelled
• Hourly Fife Circle services will start and terminate at Edinburgh
• Newcraighall-Edinburgh Cancelled
• Glasgow Central-Whifflet Cancelled
• Glasgow Central-Paisley Canal reduced to an hourly service, departing Central at xx:07 and departing Paisley Canal at xx:30
• Glasgow Central-Edinburgh via Shotts Cancelled
• Cathcart Circle services Cancelled
• Glasgow-Ardrossan Harbour services are Cancelled, with the exception of boat connection trains.
• Glasgow Queen Street-Falkirk Grahamston via Cumbernauld services will run hourly, departing Queen Street at xx:21 and departing Falkirk at xx:42. Services terminating at Cumbernauld are cancelled.
• Glasgow Queen Street-Edinburgh via Falkirk High services will run half-hourly, departing both stations at xx:00 and xx:30
• Edinburgh-Bathgate Cancelled
• Milngavie-High Street/Bellgrove Cancelled, including express services to Airdrie in the rush hour.
• Dalmuir-Larkhall via Singer Cancelled. No mention of a replacement bus.

 

[ADRboy]

Points are frozen at Airdrie. All passengers just getting turned away.

 

[me123]

There's nothing online about that. They can potentially turn services back at Sunnyside; they did that yesterday evening. But would they want to risk those points failing?

 

[ADRboy]

There's nothing online about that. They can potentially turn services back at Sunnyside; they did that yesterday evening. But would they want to risk those points failing?

Online systems are a joke.

Walked for an hour in the snow to Airdrie as they were showing as on time, only to get turned away.

Even @Scotrail (official account) on twitter didn't know the trains were off never mind the journeycheck systems. Even looking now the trains are still showing as on time.

 

[me123]

They're on time, but down to half-hourly (the Balloch runs have disappeared without a trace). Thanks for letting me know, though. Was considering attempting going to Glasgow later today as the North Clydes performed quite well yesterday and the day before.
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LDBs shows a shuttle between Balloch and Dumbarton, with a half hourly Helensburgh-Airdrie service. But as we know, there's no trains getting to Airdrie (they'll get no further than Sunnyside if they're lucky).

If this is true, it also means that there are no trains calling at Singer, Drumry and Drumchapel stations. But I presume that these stations would be served by Helensburgh services (as has happened over the last few days).