Scotland Rover

[badger1badger]

Please could someone let me know a bit more about scottish railrovers

how much and are they valid on sleeper services ?

Thanks

Paul

 

[Mojo]

Freedom of Scotland Travelpass

Product

Adult
Child
Railcard​

Freedom of Scotland Travelpass
4 in 8 Days

£114·00
£57.00
£75.25​

Freedom of Scotland Travelpass
8 in 15 Days

£153·00
£76.50
£101.00​

Discounts

Child - 50%
Senior, 16-25, Disabled Persons Railcard - 34%
Privilege - 75% Adult and 88% Child to holders of a Staff Travel Card or Staff Travel Card Retired

Validity

After 0915 Mondays to Fridays, anytime weekends and bank holidays.

• Restriction does not apply to customers travelling on the Glasgow – Oban/Fort William/Mallaig and Inverness – Kyle/Wick/Thurso routes. Customers may also travel between Edinburgh and Fort William on the Caledonian Sleeper Seated portion. Travelpass customers wishing to use this facility are advised that reservations are strongly recommended to ensure a seat is secured.
• Restriction does not apply to customers travelling from Lockerbie to Carlisle, Carstairs, Motherwell or Glasgow Central on direct services only. Customers should note that the time restriction would then apply to onward journeys from these points.

Valid for Standard class travel on the services of all rail operators on scheduled services in Scotland and services to/from Carlisle and Berwick upon Tweed

Additional benefits

Also valid on:

• Scottish Citylink services between Kyle of Lochalsh - Uig, Inverness - Ullapool, Oban - Campbeltown, Wick - Thurso, Oban/Fort William - Inverness.
• All Caledonian MacBrayne scheduled ferry services within Scotland.
• Stagecoach Fife Scottish Bus services Dundee/Leuchars - St Andrews.
• Stagecoach in Inverness services on the Isle of Skye, Kyleakin - Kyle of Lochalsh, Wick - John O'Groats, Thurso - John O'Groats and Thurso - Scrabster
• First Edinburgh services from Edinburgh to the Scottish Borders and Carlisle.
• Bowmans Coaches services on the Isle of Mull.

Discounts on:

• Caledonian Sleeper - 10% discount on full Standard fares
• Northlink Ferries - 20% discount on routes between Scrabster and Stromness, Aberdeen and Lerwick, and Aberdeen and Kirkwall
• Tim Dearman coaches - 25% discount between Inverness and Durness
• City Sightseeing Bus Tours - £1 off Edinburgh Bus Tour and Glasgow City Sightseeing (note customers must download a voucher at www.scotrail.co.uk/travelpass to obtain this discount)

 

[me123]

Hi Paul

Your best ticket is probably the Freedom of Scotland Travelpass. It allows unlimited travel on trains in Scotland (including services to Carlisle and Berwick-upon-Tweed), as well as travel on all Caledonian MacBrayne ferry services and some bus services.

There's also a 10% discount on Caledonian Sleeper routes, and a 15% discount on the Isle of Mull railway (although you obviously need to get a (free) ferry from Oban to get here in the first place, which can take a lot of time). If you're going further afield, there's also a 20% discount on Northlink Ferries to Shetland and Orkney.

The fares are:

• £114 for 4 out of 8 consecutive days
• £153 for 8 out of 15 consecutive days

They are not allowed on trains until after 09:15am Monday-Friday, with the following exceptions:

• West Highland Line Services
• Inverness-Wick/Thurso and Inverness-Kyle
• 0450 Edinburgh-Fort William Caledonian (Seated) Sleeper service
• 0530 Glasgow Queen Street-Westerton service (to connect onto the above train)

There are no restrictions on weekends.

The ticket also gives you time to explore Scotland if that's what you're looking for, so you can take days off the railways if you want to. But if you're wanting to spend all 4 or 8 days on the rails, the ticket also lets you do that.

EDIT: Mojo beat me to it

 

[badger1badger]

Thanks Guys - a great help and so simple to understand
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All

Can we travel to Aran ? on the same ticket at no extra cost ??

Cheers

Paul
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Restriction does not apply to customers travelling on the Glasgow – Oban/Fort William/Mallaig and Inverness – Kyle/Wick/Thurso routes. Customers may also travel between Edinburgh and Fort William on the Caledonian Sleeper Seated portion. Travelpass customers wishing to use this facility are advised that reservations are strongly recommended to ensure a seat is secured.
Restriction does not apply to customers travelling from Lockerbie to Carlisle, Carstairs, Motherwell or Glasgow Central on direct services only.

Does this mean we can or can not travel to Kyle from Inverness and Oban from Glasgow ??

Cheers

Paul

 

[rail-britain]

There are also a variety of smaller area rover tickets for Scotland :
Central Scotland - 3 days in 7
Highland - 4 days in 8
SPT Roundabout - 1 day
Daytripper - 1 day

 

[Greenback]

Thanks Guys - a great help and so simple to understand


Does this mean we can or can not travel to Kyle from Inverness and Oban from Glasgow ??

Cheers

Paul

You can travel on those two routes at any time!

 

[me123]

Can we travel to Aran ? on the same ticket at no extra cost ??

Cheers

Paul

I'm afraid not. However, you can travel to the Isle of Arran at no extra cost

In all seriousness, yes you can get the train to Ardrossan Harbour and board the Caledonain MacBrayne ferry to Brodick, Arran. However, bus services on the Island are not included in the ticket, unfortunately.

And, as Greenback's already said, the restrictions do not apply on these routes in both directions. So you can get any train on these lines at any time.

 

[badger1badger]

hi

could anyone tell me can you travel first class on any of these rovers ??

Cheers

Paul

 

[rail-britain]

could anyone tell me can you travel first class on any of these rovers ??

No, standard only

 

[yorkie]

You could upgrade to Weekend First on Saturdays, Sundays & Bank Holidays as normal.

 

[rail-britain]

You could upgrade to Weekend First on Saturdays, Sundays & Bank Holidays as normal

This is not permitted on any of the Scotland specific Rovers

Terms :
Weekend First tickets are available on Saturdays and Sundays to holders of Anytime Day Single, Off-Peak Return, Off-Peak Day Return and Super Off-peak Return tickets only
Edinburgh - Glasgow Queen Street £3.10
Edinburgh or Glasgow - Aberdeen £5.30
Edinburgh or Glasgow - Inverness £5.30
Aberdeen - Inverness £5.30

 

[tony_mac]

is this documented anywhere, as I haven't found it. Nationailrail doesn't include the line about ticket types.

also, is this Scotrail only? I can't see anything that says it's not valid on Virgin, XC, EastCoast, TransPennine.

 

[rail-britain]

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/promotions/pr3744bcc35ce7410024862c7ece4649/details.html
Holders of most standard class tickets can upgrade to the added comfort of First Class on selected train companies on Saturdays, Sundays and Bank Holidays on trains which convey First Class accommodation
Scroll down to "ScotRail"
This page also lists all the other restrictions on a per TOC basis

Applies to First Class on ScotRail only
It is due to the limited amount of First Class on services

However, where a train is timetabled for standard only and has First Class, then you can sit in the First Class for "free"

 

[tony_mac]

yes, I saw that page - it doesn't say what you posted earlier, and I was wondering where the information came from.

Weekend First tickets are available on Saturdays and Sundays to holders of Anytime Day Single, Off-Peak Return, Off-Peak Day Return and Super Off-peak Return tickets only

You also said

This is not permitted on any of the Scotland specific Rovers

without saying this applies only to Scotrail, so I wanted to clarify it.

 

[rail-britain]

Contact FSR, they will confirm this restriction
Details are in the National Fares Manual

Details are also at :
http://www.scotrail.co.uk/travelinfo/ticketsandfares62ac.html
See Section 2 :
http://www.travelpass.buytickets.scotrail.co.uk/Rover/TermsAndConditions.aspx

However, I know that some Ticket Inspectors overlook this as it is not easily checked and confirmed