Scotrail Fleet - A Mess?

[hexagon789]

Northern are arguably worse than ScotRail.

In terms of variety or upkeep of stock?

 

[NoMorePacers]

In terms of variety or upkeep of stock?

It has a larger variety, but much worse rolling stock.

 

[hexagon789]

It has a larger variety, but much worse rolling stock.

Worse in that they are more run down generally or simply they have more stock you don't like?

 

[NoMorePacers]

Worse in that they are more run down generally or simply they have more stock you don't like?

I haven't actually travelled on ScotRail before, so I can't really comment on whether I like their stock or not. However Northern's fleet is much older on average (most of their trains are 30+ years old, as opposed to ScotRail having more newer trains") and ScotRail's fleet looks like it is in better condition.

 

[hexagon789]

I haven't actually travelled on ScotRail before, so I can't really comment on whether I like their stock or not. However Northern's fleet is much older on average (most of their trains are 30+ years old, as opposed to ScotRail having more newer trains") and ScotRail's fleet looks like it is in better condition.

Age us but a number!

I take your point though, the Pacers and 150s are certainly getting on a bit. The 156s and especially 158s I would say are good for another 10-15 years with a refresh at some point.

Condition perhaps, but some of the suburban EMUs are quite grotty, the 318s and 320s need a good deep-clean.

 

[CM]

Scotrail can't even clean a train properly, you only have to look at the state of the windows on some of the 318s and 320s to see why I mean. Half of them you can't even see in/out of them! How hard is it to actually keep a train clean?!

 

[NoMorePacers]

Scotrail can't even clean a train properly, you only have to look at the state of the windows on some of the 318s and 320s to see why I mean. Half of them you can't even see in/out of them! How hard is it to actually keep a train clean?!

I travelled on 2 refurbished Northern 155s earlier this week and the floors were already covered in dirt.

 

[43096]

I travelled on 2 refurbished Northern 155s earlier this week and the floors were already covered in dirt.

The white painted vestibule walls in the refurbished Northern 158 I had are really not a good idea - already showing dirt and scuff marks. With Northern’s cleaning “regime” they will quickly look awful. The grey colour ScotRail use is much more practical.