Shift Pattern GTR qualified drivers

[joeynova27]

Hi guys

I'm starting finally in September and just wondered if anyone knows what the shift pattern is when qualified!?

Any response greatly appreciated.

 

[westcoaster]

Hi guys

I'm starting finally in September and just wondered if anyone knows what the shift pattern is when qualified!?

Any response greatly appreciated.

Do you mean days of or shift times also where will you be based

Tl = 3 week Rosta

Week 1 sun/mon/tues off, wed,Thur,fri,sat lates
Week2 mon,tues lates wed/Thur off, fri,sat earlies
Week3 mon,tues,wed,Thur earlies fri,sat off

Then back to week1, hope that helps

 

[joeynova27]

I'll be based at King's cross. Yes days on and off. Thanks so much

 

[t0ffeeman]

I'll be based at King's cross. Yes days on and off. Thanks so much

ask your LDC mate. they'll give you a copy

 

[whoosh]

Kings Cross is currently mostly:

Rest days of

Tues/Wed
Fri/ Sat
Mon/ Tues
Then Monday/Sat or Fri/Sat

as a four weekly repeating pattern.

Morning turns on weekdays have start times between 04:47 and 08:32.
Afternoon turns on weekdays have start times between 12:33 and 16:13.
There are two PM turns that finish after midnight (at 00:09 and 00:37)

Saturdays have more of a spread in the morning with start times up to 10:17.
Also more of a spread in the afternoon on Saturdays with the latest book on being at 17:47. Three finishes after midnight (similar times to weekdays for two of them and 02:06 for the third).

You are rostered to work approximately every other Sunday, but can say you are 'not available' with 7 days notice and they'll find someone else who wants extra overtime to do it.

You'd be early one week, then late, then early, then late, and so on. But a week of nights comes around about every six weeks. You always go back on afternoons after a week of nights.

The work is mostly Inner Suburban, but there is still a fair amount of Outer Suburban and even some non-stop to Cambridge trips.


Having said all that - there is a major timetable change coming in December, with a higher frequency on the Inner Suburban services between Welwyn/Hertford and Moorgate in the evening, and also with them actually going to Moorgate until about midnight (instead of Kings Cross). They will also go to and from Moorgate and run at a higher frequency at the weekends as well, so all the traincrew diagrams will be rewritten and the roster will change to accommodate the extra drivers needed. I expect there will be less Saturdays off than at the moment.

The current arrangement is that you can have a taxi to/from work if your duty starts before 05:00 or finishes after midnight and there is no train you can use at that time for travelling to/from work.

If it's easier for you, if your duty involves travelling to Hornsey Depot at the start of it, to pick up a train, then you can book on there (there's car parking available) providing you arrange it with the Duty Resouces Manager in advance. There is a telephone to book on, signing on sheet, notice case, and weekly notices etc. at Hornsey Depot, so some drivers book on there instead of at Kings Cross when they have suitable duties.

 

[joeynova27]

Wow loads of information... Thank you so much

 

[455driver]

Kings Cross is currently mostly:

Rest days of

Tues/Wed
Fri/ Sat
Mon/ Tues
Then Monday/Sat or Fri/Sat

So lots of Tuesdays off but you work every Thursday, that doesn't seem very fair, or do you mean Wed/Thu at the top!

 

[whoosh]

Sorry, yes well spotted!

That first line should be Wed/Thurs, although the eagle-eyed will spot there are more Mondays and Fridays off than Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays - this is correct! (Strange I know!)

 

[Garyjames1701]

How many weekends do you get off per month roughly? I'm currently awaiting a start date but I already work unsociable shifts as a Police Officer. I currently work three weekends in a row then get two consecutive weekends off.

 

[westcoaster]

How many weekends do you get off per month roughly? I'm currently awaiting a start date but I already work unsociable shifts as a Police Officer. I currently work three weekends in a row then get two consecutive weekends off.

On the TL side we get a long weekend every 3 weeks. So we work 2 out of 3 Saturday's, Sunday's are optional.

 

[Garyjames1701]

On the TL side we get a long weekend every 3 weeks. So we work 2 out of 3 Saturday's, Sunday's are optional.

Thanks chap, so the salary for the job once qualified, I take it that doesn't include working Sundays? So if you work Sundays you can increase your contracted salary?

 

[whoosh]

Average of 35 hours a week, Monday to Saturday.
If you work a Sunday it's overtime. The rate for Sundays at GTR is 'Time + 35%'.

 

[Bucko]

Do you mean days of or shift times also where will you be based

Tl = 3 week Rosta

Week 1 sun/mon/tues off, wed,Thur,fri,sat lates
Week2 mon,tues lates wed/Thur off, fri,sat earlies
Week3 mon,tues,wed,Thur earlies fri,sat off

Then back to week1, hope that helps

So when you go back to week 1 and have sun/mon/tue off, following on from week 3 where you have fri/sat off, you get 1 mega long weekend every third week? ( fri/sat/sun/mon/tue off )

 

[redbutton]

Yes. When you hear people refer to their "long weekend", that's what it is.

At other TOCs, Sundays are required, so you end up with a five day weekend preceded or followed by seven working days in a row.

Personally, I'd rather have Sundays inside the working week in exchange for more time off overall that is spread out more evenly.

But, there are pros and cons of both systems.

 

[Chamber]

xxxxx

 

[whoosh]

One on the GN! (I'll remain incognito if you don't mind! )

Sundays used to be 'Time + 25%' but changed a couple of years ago. It's definitely 'Time + 35% now.

Rest day work is 'Time + 15% + £50'. Perhaps someone has confused that with Sundays?
(Alternatively you can opt on rest day work for 'A day in Lieu + 15%' instead )

Oh ,hang on, maybe they've got it confused with Bank holidays. They are 'Time + 15% + A day in lieu'.
(Alternatively, you can opt for 'Double time + 15%' instead.)

 

[Chamber]

xxxxx

 

[t0ffeeman]

Kings Cross is currently mostly:

Rest days of

Tues/Wed
Fri/ Sat
Mon/ Tues
Then Monday/Sat or Fri/Sat

as a four weekly repeating pattern.

Morning turns on weekdays have start times between 04:47 and 08:32.
Afternoon turns on weekdays have start times between 12:33 and 16:13.
There are two PM turns that finish after midnight (at 00:09 and 00:37)

Saturdays have more of a spread in the morning with start times up to 10:17.
Also more of a spread in the afternoon on Saturdays with the latest book on being at 17:47. Three finishes after midnight (similar times to weekdays for two of them and 02:06 for the third).

You are rostered to work approximately every other Sunday, but can say you are 'not available' with 7 days notice and they'll find someone else who wants extra overtime to do it.

You'd be early one week, then late, then early, then late, and so on. But a week of nights comes around about every six weeks. You always go back on afternoons after a week of nights.

The work is mostly Inner Suburban, but there is still a fair amount of Outer Suburban and even some non-stop to Cambridge trips.


Having said all that - there is a major timetable change coming in December, with a higher frequency on the Inner Suburban services between Welwyn/Hertford and Moorgate in the evening, and also with them actually going to Moorgate until about midnight (instead of Kings Cross). They will also go to and from Moorgate and run at a higher frequency at the weekends as well, so all the traincrew diagrams will be rewritten and the roster will change to accommodate the extra drivers needed. I expect there will be less Saturdays off than at the moment.

The current arrangement is that you can have a taxi to/from work if your duty starts before 05:00 or finishes after midnight and there is no train you can use at that time for travelling to/from work.

If it's easier for you, if your duty involves travelling to Hornsey Depot at the start of it, to pick up a train, then you can book on there (there's car parking available) providing you arrange it with the Duty Resouces Manager in advance. There is a telephone to book on, signing on sheet, notice case, and weekly notices etc. at Hornsey Depot, so some drivers book on there instead of at Kings Cross when they have suitable duties.

some good conditions there mate. [emoji41]