The report says by Christmas, so yes.Wow! I wonder when the next print will be? Maybe December?
The report says by Christmas, so yes.Wow! I wonder when the next print will be? Maybe December?
London Travelwatch have today issued a statement advising that they have persuaded TfL to put TLRailUK services on the next print of the Tube map. Not clear from the statement which stations will be included.
A ( draft? ) map was tweeted a day or two ago showing the inclusion as it would appear, but I can't remember who tweeted it now - might have been Steve White from GTR if anyone wants to trawl Twitter to find it.
Steve White from GTR
TLRailUK?London Travelwatch have today issued a statement advising that they have persuaded TfL to put TLRailUK services on the next print of the Tube map. Not clear from the statement which stations will be included.
TLRailUK?
I hope that’s just Thameslink being autocorrected...
Oh right. Not real then.It's their twitter handle!
I wonder if one of the reasons TfL agreed is the Northern Line's Bank branch closure scheduled to last for well over a third of next year. Diverting customers on to Thameslink is seen as one of the key ways to manage the passenger flow.
I am in two minds, it probably should appear on the map but the map is a complete mess now which needs a complete rethink from scratch.
Good opportunity is when Crossrail (eventually) opens and is on the map too; it should be fairly 'static' after that.
Hurrah! Common sense prevails! I wonder whether it'll be labelled as "Thameslink" or "National Rail"? If it's the former, it may mean the need for better Thameslink branding on signage.
Are gtr going to be paying towards the costs of being on the map?
Interesting point. If it's shown as 'Thameslink' on the map people (especially tourists) are going to be looking for the interchange sign that says "Thameslink".
My bet would be on the reintroduction of generic white lines for 'National Rail' services.
Exactly my thinking. I'd prefer "Thameslink" with proper name prominence like the Liz Line will be. However, I'm doubting it'll happen.
Interesting point. If it's shown as 'Thameslink' on the map people (especially tourists) are going to be looking for the interchange sign that says "Thameslink".
My bet would be on the reintroduction of generic white lines for 'National Rail' services.
I guess at London Bridge it may not be massively obvious that a "tube" line leaves from Platform 5 in the main station!
Probably comes down to whether TfL should be given control of some or all of Thameslink. Probably not on the cards for the foreseeable.
I really can't see the point of doing this so I hope it doesn't happen.
Looking at some of the arguments on this thread, I think the Tube Map is increasingly arbitrary.
I never use the “tube map” (as opposed to the “tube and rail map”) and I don’t understand its purpose really. I think the tube map is most used only because it’s the one TfL make easily accessible.
- If minimum frequency is the criteria, much of the Overground and TfL Rail doesn’t belong.
- If consistent fare scales are the criteria, the Trams don’t belong.
- If operator is the criteria, then the DLR doesn’t belong.
- If centralness of services is the criteria, then why not Charing X to London Bridge and Waterloo to Wimbledon.
In reality I suspect most people use neither - making this a moot point - because these days people use journey planners to navigate.
Actually I think it's very simple. The current 'tube map' is a 'map of all services run by TfL' excluding busses.
In other words it's a map run for the benefit of TfL and nobody else. And as more journeys get arranged via journey planners - so if NR services are the best option, people will be guided toward them - the advantages of the map to TfL are beginning to be chipped away at.Actually I think it's very simple. The current 'tube map' is a 'map of all services run by TfL' excluding busses.