The industrial action of three years ago has finished. The May timetable change last year also introduced a lot of changes to improve reliability - there's hardly any splitting and joining at Victoria and London Bridge. Driver changes en route have been drastically reduced. Improved turnaround times at terminals. Stock and crews tend to stick to particular service groups to prevent disruption spreading from one group to another.
Seems southern is a now very reliable and more than it's been in years though I don't have figures to hands
The strikes long finished with has confidence beeb restored ?
The 377s are kept very well compared to some trains out there
Would suggest those who enacted such improvements are needed at Northern Rail. Common sense solutions to improve service reliability.The industrial action of three years ago has finished. The May timetable change last year also introduced a lot of changes to improve reliability - there's hardly any splitting and joining at Victoria and London Bridge. Driver changes en route have been drastically reduced. Improved turnaround times at terminals. Stock and crews tend to stick to particular service groups to prevent disruption spreading from one group to another.
The industrial action of three years ago has finished. The May timetable change last year also introduced a lot of changes to improve reliability - there's hardly any splitting and joining at Victoria and London Bridge. Driver changes en route have been drastically reduced. Improved turnaround times at terminals. Stock and crews tend to stick to particular service groups to prevent disruption spreading from one group to another.
It is timetabled not to have a clear run. It has 4 1/2 mins pathing time to keep it behind the preceeding stopper to Littlehampton.. The GW Bristol from Brighton at 1702 rarely gets a check free run but at least is far more comfortable.
They beat the RMT and things have improved ... None of the others have ... Any correlation?Would suggest those who enacted such improvements are needed at Northern Rail. Common sense solutions to improve service reliability.
Sorry but it's the great Northern/Southern divide often brought up on here.Would suggest those who enacted such improvements are needed at Northern Rail. Common sense solutions to improve service reliability.
Looks like DOO has been a huge success
Amazed that DOO shortens station stops by 20 seconds. If so, then I understand why DfT is so keen on it - perhaps more should be done to publicise this as the justification for DOO, rather than allowing people to think “it’s all about money”.I doubt it's really had much to do with it apart from allowing maybe 20 second shorter station stops. It's the timetable and diagram simplification that has done it and is now proven to work.
Northern, TPE and LNR - how about it?
Thanks for explanation, a long time since the loop at Worthing was used to let the Exeter and Bristols overtake but at least the seats are comfy. I noticed the same benefit of comfy seats of the GWR units from Redhill to GA before the earth fell away at Edenbridge, I can't go that way now as a ticket to TW is now nearly £90 return on the Internet as opposed to £29 via Redhill which has disappeared.It’s mostly about the resource plan and longer turnarounds.
It is timetabled not to have a clear run. It has 4 1/2 mins pathing time to keep it behind the preceeding stopper to Littlehampton.
It's a bit ironic that the operator that won all the battles over DOO/OBS has since become one of the best TOCs - while many of the others are still in mini-disaster mode.
Amazed that DOO shortens station stops by 20 seconds. If so, then I understand why DfT is so keen on it - perhaps more should be done to publicise this as the justification for DOO, rather than allowing people to think “it’s all about money”.
Some on the Midsussex have well worn suspensions that bottom out with a bang, others do not in the same place. I agree service on the Mid Sussex has certainly improved, before you never knew getting to Horsham what would happen up or down, split or not to split etc. Splitting still takes longer most days than scheduled so a rare day you are exactly on time at Chichester. Redhill Tunbridge was excellent till the recent earth problems. Coastway West is very iffy, 313 are well past sell by date, two units have given me a shower in heavy rain out of the light fittings and a driver was telling me the other day he wears a poncho to keep dry in the cabs. Plenty of glass fibre/Denzo tape looking at the cabs. Timetable is very poor, no semi fasts even, just a nearly all shacks service - no toilets for over an hours run remember. The GW Bristol from Brighton at 1702 rarely gets a check free run but at least is far more comfortable. One saving grace is the 377s on the coastway seem to still have the better 2+2 more padded seats than the 'refreshed' 3+2 MidSussex 377 ironing boards. Waste of money that, you cannot get 3 people wearing coats on the 3 seats and getting air craft sized trollies luggage down the aisles is a nightmare, this on trains stopping at an International Airport.
Soon there is a downgrade on the GWR Brighton service with battered commuter style turbos taking over from 158sSome on the Midsussex have well worn suspensions that bottom out with a bang, others do not in the same place. I agree service on the Mid Sussex has certainly improved, before you never knew getting to Horsham what would happen up or down, split or not to split etc. Splitting still takes longer most days than scheduled so a rare day you are exactly on time at Chichester. Redhill Tunbridge was excellent till the recent earth problems. Coastway West is very iffy, 313 are well past sell by date, two units have given me a shower in heavy rain out of the light fittings and a driver was telling me the other day he wears a poncho to keep dry in the cabs. Plenty of glass fibre/Denzo tape looking at the cabs. Timetable is very poor, no semi fasts even, just a nearly all shacks service - no toilets for over an hours run remember. The GW Bristol from Brighton at 1702 rarely gets a check free run but at least is far more comfortable. One saving grace is the 377s on the coastway seem to still have the better 2+2 more padded seats than the 'refreshed' 3+2 MidSussex 377 ironing boards. Waste of money that, you cannot get 3 people wearing coats on the 3 seats and getting air craft sized trollies luggage down the aisles is a nightmare, this on trains stopping at an International Airport.
Had a nice clear run Christmas eve 70mph Hove to Worthing as the 313 was cancelled but sadly got stranded at Barnham for THREE HOURS then ran all shacks to Fratton due to a blown fuseIt’s mostly about the resource plan and longer turnarounds.
It is timetabled not to have a clear run. It has 4 1/2 mins pathing time to keep it behind the preceeding stopper to Littlehampton.
Southern runs fairly well now, on all the routes that I experience in South London. The issues are primarily infrastructure based now. Obviously the OBS / DOO dispute has helped, but as did some considerable beneficial changes in the May '18 timetable. It introduced some more changing for some passengers but after the initial grumbles I think people were happier with a more reliable timetable.
Thameslink is now the more problematic operator with its 2-3 hour diagrams and multiple opportunities to pick up delay, especially in the peak.
Soon there is a downgrade on the GWR Brighton service with battered commuter style turbos taking over from 158s