Maybe they'll be hauling some surplus 319s around non-electrified routes?
Loco-hauled Pacers... you just know it makes sense....!
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Speculation: BR Class 442 - Northern Franchise
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Loco-hauled Pacers... you just know it makes sense....!
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northwichcat
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Loco-hauled Pacers... you just know it makes sense....!
If you try that they'd fall to bits.
If you try that they'd fall to bits.
Ahh, but how do we know that for sure? Probably best to ship some off to Old Dalby, hook them up behind a 67, and see what happens. I recommend starting at 125mph, then working downwards until the upper limit is found. Precision and sample size are important in science, so best to test each speed at least 4 or 5 times, then only drop the speed by 1mph every time they fail.
Could even make it a spectator event, with betting on the outcome of each test.
How's about Class 43, Pacer, Pacer, Pacer, Class 43... run it up to maximum speed and see what happens....
That might damage the 43's and we don't want that
Get a couple of powercars from the NOL E* sets (will need modifying but it's worth it) and sandwich them between. The NOL's are only going to get scrapped anyway.
A few (say 3 sets at a time) pacers and many HP of loco, should be interesting
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That might damage the 43's and we don't want that
Get a couple of powercars from the NOL E* sets (will need modifying but it's worth it) and sandwich them between. The NOL's are only going to get scrapped anyway.
A few (say 3 sets at a time) pacers and many HP of loco, should be interesting
NoL E* sets are no good for in the UK (a combination of the power they draw and gauging issues)
Xenophon PCDGS
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This thread wants the Class 442 to go to Northern Rail
Another thread wants the D78's to go to Northern Rail
See any similarity of purpose?
Another thread wants the D78's to go to Northern Rail
See any similarity of purpose?
I'm sure the smashed up (I mean rigorously tested
)pacers will do a lot of damage too,, we can run them (for testing purposes) on the ECML (which can handle a NOL (just)) and during the tests there will be no other trains running on the juice.
Xenophon PCDGS
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It is a wonder that the Blackpool Transport heritage trams, suitably amended, are not also proposed to be used on Northern Rail..
Have Northern Rail been granted full scrap-dealer approval status, details of which has been kept very quiet from the general public at large, but a known fact amongst rail bodies with old stock to dispose of?
Have Northern Rail been granted full scrap-dealer approval status, details of which has been kept very quiet from the general public at large, but a known fact amongst rail bodies with old stock to dispose of?
61653 HTAFC
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It is a wonder that the Blackpool Transport heritage trams, suitably amended, are not also proposed to be used on Northern Rail..
Have Northern Rail been granted full scrap-dealer approval status, details of which has been kept very quiet from the general public at large, but a known fact amongst rail bodies with old stock to dispose of?
I'm sure the ride "quality" offered by the 142 which took me the short hop from Batley to Dewsbury yesterday teatime would be no worse had it been on a 1930's tramcar... As long as I didn't stray upstairs, that is!
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