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robertclark125

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anyone got any ideas what's going on with preston Bus. The five ex Lothian Tridents they purchased were all prepped and tidyed up at stagecoach Fife. Now 3 ex stagecoach London tridents have been bought. In addition, the sole Citaro in the fleet was prepped by Stagecoach as well.
 

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Carlisle passengers cash in on Stagecoach and Reays bus fares battle

Stagecoach is reducing the pricing of its Dayrider bus ticket in Carlisle, just as rival Reays has increased fares.
But Reays is fighting back with cut-price tickets of its own, including a winter sale allowing passengers to travel for £1 before 9.30am.
The tit-for-tat initiatives are the latest twist in an increasingly hard-fought battle for passengers.
The reduction in Stagecoach’s Dayrider, which gives a day’s unlimited travel, is the third since Reays set up in competition in October 2010.
The Dayrider used to cost £3.60. Stagecoach cut the price to £2.90, then £2.60.
Now the ticket is available for £2, albeit only as a promotion until February 29.
This undercuts Reays’ day ticket, which costs £2.50.
Colin Nicholson, commercial assistant for Stagecoach Cumbria and North Lancashire, denied that the move was a response to competition from Reays.
However, Stagecoach is not reducing the price of Dayriders elsewhere in Cumbria.
Mr Nicholson said: “It’s all part of our winter sales promotion.”
Stagecoach is also offering incentives on some unlimited-travel Megarider tickets through its website www.stagecoachbus.com.
These apply across Cumbria, not just Carlisle.
Passengers buying a four-week Megarider until March 31 get an extra week’s travel free.
And those buying the 13-week Megarider pass before February 29 get an extra three weeks.
Meanwhile, Reays has hit back with the £1 offer and a new Double Hopper ticket.
This allows passengers to buy two tickets anywhere on the Carlisle City Hopper network for £2.
The second journey does not have to be on the same day as the first.
It also plans to launch a Multi Hopper ticket from Monday, offering 10 journeys for £6.
Reays’ basic fares increased by up to 57 per cent from January 3.
However, its unlimited-travel tickets have not gone up.
Chris Reay, managing director of Reays, said: “We are still the cheapest way to travel in Carlisle.
“The fares increase was unavoidable because of a combination of factors beyond our control, including a cut in government subsidies, cuts in local authority concessionary subsidies and rising oil prices.”
Reays says it has new buses on order and plans for more routes.
Mr Reay added: “Since we launched City Hopper in Carlisle it has become cheaper and cheaper for the public to use buses in the city, while the standard of vehicles and service has risen.
“This is no coincidence. Our presence smashed Stagecoach’s monopoly, which had allowed them to charge what they liked for years with no opposition or alternative."
 

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they will come to workington ans whitehaven before long that will give stagecoach lilyhall a kick up the arse I saw some odd workings today they had a dart on whitehaven to carlisle 600 and another dart on 46 47 a man on 50 and a few old step entrance buses on 30 and 31, didnt see the old low floor double decker anywhere today
 

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they will come to workington ans whitehaven before long that will give stagecoach lilyhall a kick up the arse I saw some odd workings today they had a dart on whitehaven to carlisle 600 and another dart on 46 47 a man on 50 and a few old step entrance buses on 30 and 31, didnt see the old low floor double decker anywhere today

47616 if back at lillyhall should be out soon after its repaint up at Carlisle. Got a feeling that 47023 will be out for a while with its engine and/or gearbox issues, third day its not been around. 47061 did replace 22611 by the late afternoon on 50. 17017 was out and about, whether or not it was in service is another question, ran empty into Workington, driver had hi-vis on.

As for the Dart on 600, it could happen in theory but that is rather unusual especially with the lack of solos at the moment and allocation of the ALX300s and so the 600 normally being a B10. (as just discussed, a possible reason could be the Dart didn't want to start this morning so a B10's got shoved out, then they ran out of B10's so used that Dart for 600.)

22104 hasnt been seen for a while just to mension, both ALX300 should really be 31A.
 
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i was talking to a driver about the darts he told me they are for the 2 the 31A and short X5 that's all five of them so the old mans must be meant for 30 31

Yeah that's how it seems Lillyhall are wanting to use them at the moment. Older MAN ALX300's should really be allocated 31A, a much more copable route for them in my opinion, especially as 30/31 is a demanding route. We've seen how the MAN Enviros have coped with the route....! Having S-reg MAN's making the front of service on a long distance route alongside 08/61 reg Enviros isn't exactly practical or ideal, they do the job, can't argue that though!
 
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anyone got any ideas what's going on with preston Bus. The five ex Lothian Tridents they purchased were all prepped and tidyed up at stagecoach Fife. Now 3 ex stagecoach London tridents have been bought. In addition, the sole Citaro in the fleet was prepped by Stagecoach as well.

I'm not sure that Stagecoach prepped the Citaro, but anyway.

Preston Bus have won back a good amount of school work (that's basically why Walton Swift have folded), so need vehicles for it.
 

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67/68 branded 34708 is on the 79/179 today due a failure first thing this morning.

Due to a lack of deckers there is a 62 branded Dart at Penrith and should be on the 104 at peak tonight where it should be switched over with a decker for the Penrith Markets tommorow.

Trident 18357 has entered service today on service 61. Its very early as it was not due to enter servuce until March.

Solo 47722 is on the 68. I believe this replaced a missing this morning. There were 2 68s that did not operatr first thing this morning.

There is also a DNO Dart on 600s (Or was).
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The allocation madness continues this afternoon at Carlisle with lack of availability and brakedowns.

As well as the Solo on the 68 a 76 branded Dart and 62 branded 34698 is also on the 68s. The Trident is still out too.
 
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lilyhalls busses are all over the place again today theres a man on moorclose again and a coach on keswick which should be a dart and old b10s on 30 31 I don't think they care what gos on what any more
 

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Yeah that's how it seems Lillyhall are wanting to use them at the moment. Older MAN ALX300's should really be allocated 31A, a much more copable route for them in my opinion, especially as 30/31 is a demanding route. We've seen how the MAN Enviros have coped with the route....! Having S-reg MAN's making the front of service on a long distance route alongside 08/61 reg Enviros isn't exactly practical or ideal, they do the job, can't argue that though!

The 31A is booked to be 2 Mans everyday with the X5 shorts being booked out as being 2 Darts. The first 600 into Carlisle from LL is also booked out to be a Dart. However Lillyhall always like to be different from what the allocation sheet shows.
 

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lilyhalls busses are all over the place again today theres a man on moorclose again and a coach on keswick which should be a dart and old b10s on 30 31 I don't think they care what gos on what any more

Two Darts had been Moorclose-ing until around half 5 today, as you'd probably agree its better keeping the town network LF rather than putting them on extra X5's.
 
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said in news and star hes got new busses on order and new routes planned

His new buses are the 2 61 plate Enviros he has and these will work alongside the 4 older Enviros he has (Missing from both depots today). His new routes in Carlisle got knocked on the head and I fail to see how he will be allowed to operate anything extra when he cannot operate what he has at the moment at a decent standard.

Due to Stagecoach having the "Sale" for £2 on Megariders, Reays today were added vinyls on there buses for £1 "Sale". The battle heats up!

Off topic but he also has 2 07 plate Enviro 200s (Small ones) in his garden ex Henderson Travel! Presumably for onward sale.
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20547 is now operating out of Carlisle looking to have replaced 451.
 
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Just so everyone knows me an 2 others have bought G572 PRM Mercedes 709 new to Cumberland it will be added to the Barrow Transport groups collection and when restored will wear the Lancaster Uni-Sprint black with gold strips as it was the only Ribble minibus to wear the livery.
 

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Just so everyone knows me an 2 others have bought G572 PRM Mercedes 709 new to Cumberland it will be added to the Barrow Transport groups collection and when restored will wear the Lancaster Uni-Sprint black with gold strips as it was the only Ribble minibus to wear the livery.

Fantastic!
 

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Just so everyone knows me an 2 others have bought G572 PRM Mercedes 709 new to Cumberland it will be added to the Barrow Transport groups collection and when restored will wear the Lancaster Uni-Sprint black with gold strips as it was the only Ribble minibus to wear the livery.

Brilliant news, but it was new to Ribble at Preston rather than Cumberland and first operated in Zippy livery.
 

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Had a run over to the Lakes today and into Kendal.

Nothing of great interest but of a more interesting note was 20960 on the 505 before returning to Kendal to operate the 555 tonight. 47057 was the Solo of choice for the 505, 516 & 599 in between the B10M runs.

Had my first ride on the Scania's on the 555 today too and have contrasting views. The first one I had on the 555 was sluggish and nowhere neard as powerful as a Trident seemed. Later in the day I had 15723 on service 530 to Dallam and it was the opposite. Really powefull and fast ride and a generally fantastic bus. Also had a cracking ride on 20712 to Kendal College on service 46... Would still show all the newer ones up.

All of the Leylands and 16185 were out apart from 14252 which was presumably on the pit. 14267 came close to replacing 18139 on the X35 which had starting problems but got going eventually. 20459 was on the Kendal town newtork in place of 47016 which was no where to be seen. All of the Scanias were present apart from 1 which I believe is aware for warranty (getting done 1 at a time).

20474 is now at Carlisle and I believe it has been working out of Penrith for the last week. Have heard it has replaced 20456 back to Kendal which could make it the UID B10M on the pit in the depot (unless that was 20949).

A tad late news but a 61/61A branded Dart made at least 1 return trip to Newcastle on the 685 on Sat.
 
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Had a run over to the Lakes today and into Kendal.

Nothing of great interest but of a more interesting note was 20960 on the 505 before returning to Kendal to operate the 555 tonight. 47057 was the Solo of choice for the 505, 516 & 599 in between the B10M runs.

Had my first ride on the Scania's on the 555 today too and have contrasting views. The first one I had on the 555 was sluggish and nowhere neard as powerful as a Trident seemed. Later in the day I had 15723 on service 530 to Dallam and it was the opposite. Really powefull and fast ride and a generally fantastic bus. Also had a cracking ride on 20712 to Kendal College on service 46... Would still show all the newer ones up.

All of the Leylands and 16185 were out apart from 14252 which was presumably on the pit. 14267 came close to replacing 18139 on the X35 which had starting problems but got going eventually. 20459 was on the Kendal town newtork in place of 47016 which was no where to be seen. All of the Scanias were present apart from 1 which I believe is aware for warranty (getting done 1 at a time).

20474 is now at Carlisle and I believe it has been working out of Penrith for the last week. Have heard it has replaced 20456 back to Kendal which could make it the UID B10M on the pit in the depot (unless that was 20949).

A tad late news but a 61/61A branded Dart made at least 1 return trip to Newcastle on the 685 on Sat.

When I first had a ride on one of MEs Scans I thought it was sluggish and lacked a bit of power. But then I had one on a full run to Preston and it performed really well. They are quite quiet which made me think there was nothing to them lol.
 

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20544 is working off Carlisle again too, saw it today on 79/179. It wasn't really that long ago at all since it was withdrawn.
474 was 600's today, and Lillyhall had 473 on too, I'd imagine it has been a very long time since they last bumped into each other in service.
16336 is out on 38's, Youth Zone Dart 34700 was too, but I believe it went out on 13:40 600 in place of 20474.
 

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20544 is working off Carlisle again too, saw it today on 79/179. It wasn't really that long ago at all since it was withdrawn.
474 was 600's today, and Lillyhall had 473 on too, I'd imagine it has been a very long time since they last bumped into each other in service.
16336 is out on 38's, Youth Zone Dart 34700 was too, but I believe it went out on 13:40 600 in place of 20474.

18357 blinded up for 179 tonight. 1800 off the Courts it should have been.
 
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