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robertclark125

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I can't see any issues with the other two. TBH if it's true that Arriva complained, then that's sour grapes on their part. As I said above, if a firm complains to the OFT about a takeover, which is subsequently refered to the competition commission, and they rule the operations need to be sold, then those who complained (i.e. those who are suffering from the competition the new owners have given them) should also be banned from bidding, as clearly they're either wanting the operations themselves, or are trying to dictate who should own it.
 

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The OFT will not be referring Stagecoaches's acquisition of Wigan from First to the Competition Commission, let the repaints commence!
 

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The OFT will not be referring Stagecoaches's acquisition of Wigan from First to the Competition Commission, let the repaints commence!

Was there any need for the OFT to investigate in the first place? As mentioned already, it was changing from one monopoly of the vast majority of services in Wigan, to a firm providing the majority of services in Wigan, but with First still having some operations coming into the town.

Yet again, thanks to some stupid complainer, a waste of taxpayers money. The OFT hasn't found friends in the soft drinks trade either, Britvic are angry as the OFT has refered the merger between them and AG Barr to the competition commission. They (Britvic) say Coca cola, who have 28% of the UK market, will be celebrating.
 

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Reays were using a 709 on the 64 today while the B10 was on the 70 and the Decker on 64A. B10 and Decker generally only ever on 64.

On Monday the Iveco had a spell on 64.

The 300r had been throwing all sorts on the afternoon peak school run with a variety of Coaches used.

47722 on 76 today.
 
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Reays new Optare Solo SR's in service on the 75 today. Photos on my Flickr along with the Gemmini in Stagecoach livery just about.
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24121 on the 68 today with 24122 on the 93.

52627 on the 79 with 34703.

53338 on the 554 with a working blind for a change.
 

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PC0002407/186 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Carlisle and Newcastle given service number 685 effective from 22-Apr-2013. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/349 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Brampton and Hexham given service number 685 effective from 22-Apr-2013. To amend Timetable.

PC0002407/350 - STAGECOACH (NORTH WEST) LTD T/A CUMBERLAND MOTOR SERVICES, SECOND FLOOR, BROADACRE HOUSE, 16-20 LOWTHER STREET, CARLISLE, CA3 8DA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Hexham and Newcastle given service number 685 effective from 22-Apr-2013. To amend Timetable.
 

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Fare changes are out for next weekend (from Stagecoach site):

Stagecoach in Carlisle fare changes as follows:
Carlisle City fares remain frozen. Fare revisions apply only to Country Services outside Carlisle Megarider boundary.
Carlisle Dayrider Plus - £6.60 (from £6.40)
Carlisle Dayrider Plus (Group) - £9.50 (from £9.30)
Carlisle Megarider Plus - £22 (from £21)
Prices frozen for Carlisle Dayrider, Carlisle Dayrider (Group) and Carlisle Megarider.

Stagecoach in Barrow fare changes are as follows:
Barrow Dayrider Plus - £6.30 (from £6.20)
Barrow Megarider - £9.70 (from £9.50)
Barrow Megarider Plus - £19.80 (from £19)
Ulverston Dayrider - £2.90 (from £2.70)
X6 Routerider (Adult) - £18.50 (up from £17.75)
X6 Routerider (Child) - £13 (up from £12.45)
6 Routerider - Barrow to Dalton - £14.60 (up from £14)
Prices frozen for Barrow Dayrider, Ulverston Megarider, Ambleside - Barrow Routerider (Adult) and Ambleside - Barrow Routerider (Child).

Stagecoach in West Cumbria fare changes are as follows:
Whitehaven Dayrider - £2.90 (up from £2.80)
Workington Dayrider - £2.90 (up from £2.80)
West Cumbria Dayrider Plus (Adult) - £4.80 (up from £4.79)
West Cumbria Dayrider Plus (Group) - £10.70 (up from £10.40)
Whitehaven Megarider - £10 (up from £9.90)
Workington Megarider - £10 (up from £9.90)
West Cumbria Megarider Plus - £16.80 (up from £16.50)
300/301 Family Return - £13.60 (up from £12)

Stagecoach in Kendal and the Lakes fare changes are as follows:
Central Lakes Dayrider (Family) - £19 (up from £15)
Central Lakes Dayrider (Group) - £22 (up from £19.50)
Prices frozen for Kendal Town Service fares, Kendal Town Dayrider (Adult), 7 Day Kendal Town Megarider, Central Lakes Dayrider (Adult) Central Lakes Dayrider (Child).

Stagecoach in Lancaster fare changes are as follows:
Bay Dayrider - £4.60 (up from £4.50)
Bay Dayrider (Group) - £9.50 (up from £9)
Bay Dayirder Plus - £6.50 (up from £6.30)
Lancashire Dayrider (Adult) - £7 (up from £6.80)
Lancashire Dayrider (Group) - £15.20 (no change)
Big Bay 5 - £5.50
7 Day Megarider (Adult) - £13.80 (up from £13.50)
7 Day Megarider Plus (Adult) - £19.40 (up from £19)
Prices frozen for 7 Day Megarider (Child), 7 Day Megarider Plus (Child)

Stagecoach in Cumbria and North Lancashire fare changes are as follows:
1 Day Explorer (Adult) - £10.30 (up from £10)
1 Day Explorer (Family) - £23 (up from £21.50)
1 Day Explorer (Group) - £30 (up from £28)
3 Day Explorer (Adult) - £22 (up from £20)
3 Day Explorer (Child) - £15.50 (up from £14)
7 Day North West Megarider Gold - £26 (up from £25)
Prices frozen for 1 Day Explorer (Child), 1 Day Explorer (Concession).

Not bad rises really, I'd guess the £10.30 explorer will be the most annoying one, I can imagine lots of passengers expecting to get £4.70 or £9.70 change from the driver rather than checking the price before they travel and making sure they have the extra 30p.
 

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Oh dear!

*Thomas the Tank Engine Voice*

Billy Bus was very disappointed to find himself on menial duties that afternoon. He was a big new bus that should have been doing big routes, and not pootling round Asda Car Park! :)

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Looks like Stagecoach cancelled a lot of Bluebird registrations:

PC1059619/1 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Manchester Albert Square and Chadderton, Sportsman given service number 72 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/2 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between St Matthews RC School and Higher Blackley given service number 51 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/8 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Manchester, Lever Street and Oldham Bus Station given service number 78 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/9 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton Bus Station and Shudehill Bus Station given service number 80 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/12 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton Bus Station and Manchester, Oldham Street given service number 112 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/13 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton Bus Station and Manchester City FC given service number 112 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/14 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton Bus Station and Upper Brook Street/ Dickenson Road given service number 113 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/15 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton Bus station and North Manchester General Hospital given service number 115/116 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/17 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Chadderton, Morrisons and Mandley Park given service number 151 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/18 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton Bus station and Woodhouses, Ashbridge Road given service number 159 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/22 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Whalley Range High School and Parrs Wood given service number 710 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/25 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hollinwood and Manchester City FC given service number 812 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/26 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Manchester, Shude Hill and Manchester, Lever Street given service number 677 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/27 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Manchester, Lever Street and Loretto College given service number 77 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/60 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Manchester Piccadilly and Trafford Park given service number 291 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/61 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Phillips Park Cemetery and Manchester, Albert Square given service number 145 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/64 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Withington, Elizabeth Slinger Road and Withington, Elizabeth Slinger Road given service number 196 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/67 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Newton Heath and Ashton Bus Station given service number 395/396 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
PC1059619/69 - MICHAEL THOMAS GREGORY DUNSTAN T/A Bluebird, ALEXANDER HOUSE, GREENGATE, MIDDLETON, MANCHESTER, M24 1RU
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton Road and Co-opertive Academy of Manchester given service number 777 effective from 03-Mar-2013.
 

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Could possibly be re-registering them under Stagecoach's licence, depends on what routes Stagecoach are looking to keep and which are to be withdrawn.
 

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They'll be re-registered on the Stagecoach Manchester license, they have to be deregistered as its a personal licence and Michael Dunstan is no longer involved in the running of Bluebird.
 

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17013 has returned to Kendal in White ready for it's advert to be applied.

16964 had still not left early this morning but would imagine it has now finally departed.

18142 has returned to Barrow.
 

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They'll be re-registered on the Stagecoach Manchester license, they have to be deregistered as its a personal licence and Michael Dunstan is no longer involved in the running of Bluebird.

They have already been re-registered.

PC0003681/331 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Newton Heath
Finish Point: Piccadilly
Via:
Service Number: 77
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/332 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Oldham
Finish Point: Manchester
Via:
Service Number: 78
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/333 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Middleton
Finish Point: Manchester
Via:
Service Number: 80
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/334 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Middleton
Finish Point: North Manchester General Hospital
Via:
Service Number: 115
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/335 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH
MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Boarshaw
Finish Point: Manchester
Via:
Service Number: 131
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/336 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Cheetham Hill
Finish Point: Hollinwood
Via:
Service Number: 151
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/337 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Chadderton
Finish Point: Hollinwood
Via:
Service Number: 152
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/338 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Piccadilly
Finish Point: Stepping Hill Hospital
Via:
Service Number: 173
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/339 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Piccadilly
Finish Point: Trafford Park
Via:
Service Number: 291
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/340 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Stockport
Finish Point: Sale
Via:
Service Number: X5
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/341 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Chadderton
Finish Point: Manchester
Via:
Service Number: 72
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/342 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Manchester
Finish Point: Manchester Airport
Via:
Service Number: 44
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/344 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Middleton
Finish Point: Oldham
Via:
Service Number: 159
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/345 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Newton Heath
Finish Point: Ashton
Via:
Service Number: 395
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-MAR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.

PC0003681/348 - GREATER MANCHESTER BUSES SOUTH LTD T/A STAGECOACH MANCHESTER, HEAD OFFICE, HYDE ROAD, ARDWICK, MANCHESTER, M12 6JS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Rochdale
Finish Point: Healey Corner
Via:
Service Number: 446
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 07-APR-2013
Other Details: Service introduced.
 
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