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In case you haven’t seen it on SKM, here is the first non-open top trident in the local livery, SSE 18176 GX54 DVV
 

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That looks like the "beachball" manages to miss the rear wheel completely, coming down before it and going back up after it - hard to tell with the angle, but this is yet another different treatment of the intersection of the curved beachball and curved wheel - it doesn't look as bad as on some others (since at least it looks like the painters have taken the wheel arch into consideration) - much better than the awkward white patch at the front, which reminds me of the way that some operators (e.g. Arriva) used to paint something horribly contrasting along the side of any vehicle that they were flogging onto another operator, in the hope that it looked so clunky that the new operator would have to paint the vehicle out of Arriva livery ASAP - in this case it looks like Stagecoach have acquired a blue bus and just awkwardly stuck their logo on the front for a few weeks whilst it waits for a proper repaint.
 

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In case you haven’t seen it on SKM, here is the first non-open top trident in the local livery, SSE 18176 GX54 DVV
Why Stagecoach insist on repainting nearly end of life Tridents and Darts confuses me. This bus still has flipdots, and yet they've chosen to repaint it over an Enviro.
 

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Why Stagecoach insist on repainting nearly end of life Tridents and Darts confuses me. This bus still has flipdots, and yet they've chosen to repaint it over an Enviro.
I would guess that standardized repaint cycles are the major cause. Although I see your point, is it better to have newer vehicles retaining still-smart older paintwork and older vehicles proverbially flaking to bits, or better to repaint everything in x years as planned so regardless of colour, it always looks fairly smart?

I also can't imagine many companies are looking to dispose of vehicles at present with increased requirements for school services/social distancing (with no end in sight), so if it needs doing, why not do it now rather than have it running around looking tatty for another 2-3 years?

The neighbouring Arriva company, by contrast, still have a handful of vehicles in the first "scoop front" livery with 15 year-old route branding. (Three national liveries, two sapphire liveries, de-vinyled Max branding in an area that never had a max route, plain white, hybrid, council all-over ad... think that covers all the basics across a 100-vehicle depot, not including route branding variants, with at least two specialized liveries elsewhere)
 

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I also can't imagine many companies are looking to dispose of vehicles at present with increased requirements for school services/social distancing (with no end in sight), so if it needs doing, why not do it now rather than have it running around looking tatty for another 2-3 years?
It hasn't been fully confirmed yet but there is talk that the Stagecoach vehicle order is to resume in the new year and there are certainly quite a few "smart..." plans to get rid of quite a chunk of older stock.
 

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I would guess that standardized repaint cycles are the major cause. Although I see your point, is it better to have newer vehicles retaining still-smart older paintwork and older vehicles proverbially flaking to bits, or better to repaint everything in x years as planned so regardless of colour, it always looks fairly smart?

I also can't imagine many companies are looking to dispose of vehicles at present with increased requirements for school services/social distancing (with no end in sight), so if it needs doing, why not do it now rather than have it running around looking tatty for another 2-3 years?

The neighbouring Arriva company, by contrast, still have a handful of vehicles in the first "scoop front" livery with 15 year-old route branding. (Three national liveries, two sapphire liveries, de-vinyled Max branding in an area that never had a max route, plain white, hybrid, council all-over ad... think that covers all the basics across a 100-vehicle depot, not including route branding variants, with at least two specialized liveries elsewhere)
That sounds fair, and we won't talk about Arriva :)
 
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And with thy power of paint.net, I have made a fictional InterConnect-based livery on a Volvo B5TL Wright Streetdeck. The bus, fleet nos. and and any of my fictional 'CountyConnect' branding does not exist.

Also i don't really think the trident look bad, the white needs a bit more 'flow' on the front
 

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And with thy power of paint.net, I have made a fictional InterConnect-based livery on a Volvo B5TL Wright Streetdeck. The bus, fleet nos. and and any of my fictional 'CountyConnect' branding does not exist.

Also i don't really think the trident look bad, the white needs a bit more 'flow' on the front
That livery would be nice for the InterConnect services. Unfortunately the livery is specified by Lincolnshire County Council.
 

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Newcastle Stalyford ALX300 22348 has been repainted. First ALX300 to be repainted into the new standard.
 

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Is the North Devon Wave brand being scrapped? I think some of the previously branded vehicles appear to have been repainted into the new local livery.
 

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Is the North Devon Wave brand being scrapped? I think some of the previously branded vehicles appear to have been repainted into the new local livery.
AIUI the majority of "local brands" will be deprecated. Stagecoach Interconnect, Oxford Tube and the Lakes liveries are exceptions, I'm sure there are others though.
 

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Is the North Devon Wave brand being scrapped? I think some of the previously branded vehicles appear to have been repainted into the new local livery.
Yes you are correct, some have been repainted. It is the plan to remove the Wave brand from existence unfortunately
 

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Do you have any pictures of 22348? I couldn't find any on Google Images.
On Flickr (not my photos)
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Thank you so much, much appreciated. I'm wondering just now if Stagecoach Fife has gotten rid of thier Geminis. Would have been nice to have seen a Volvo Renown or a Liberator or a Crusader in the now current Livery. I think the current Livery suits the smaller Vehicles better such as the Solo SR. The Livery suits the Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer so I think it would definitely suit a Crusader.
 

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I can't be the only one noticing how squint the front Stagecoach logo and fleet numbers are. The front is genuinely one of the worst looking ALX300s i have ever seen, the unnecessary "mascara" between the lights doesn't exactly help!

The ALX300s always looked smart from the front in beachball, although i wasn't a huge fan of the livery application on them overall. I always thought the rear swoop was too far back and disliked how it cut through the rear wheel.
 

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Why don't they just put the logo on the blue panel at the front, rather than having an ugly white rectangle for it? It would improve the livery's appearance infinitely.
 

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I can't be the only one noticing how squint the front Stagecoach logo and fleet numbers are. The front is genuinely one of the worst looking ALX300s i have ever seen, the unnecessary "mascara" between the lights doesn't exactly help!
You aren't. Triggered me too. The 2s in the fleetnumber are at different heights, the fleetname on the side is too close to the blue swoosh and the fleetname on the front looks like it was applied by a person wearing only one shoe.

Call it rivet counting or attention to detail, I don't care. If that was put in front of me to sign off I'd be sending it back.
 

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Thank you so much, much appreciated. I'm wondering just now if Stagecoach Fife has gotten rid of thier Geminis. Would have been nice to have seen a Volvo Renown or a Liberator or a Crusader in the now current Livery. I think the current Livery suits the smaller Vehicles better such as the Solo SR. The Livery suits the Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer so I think it would definitely suit a Crusader.
No problem :)
 
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Here in Gloucester we have another repaint, and that’s ex gold MAN Enviro 300 22745 (GX58MVJ)
 

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Why don't they just put the logo on the blue panel at the front, rather than having an ugly white rectangle for it? It would improve the livery's appearance infinitely.
AFAIK only one bus (so far) is white panel-less : https://www.flickr.com/photos/18868...CVtWs-2izLih7-2ijSr6X-2hW18z9-2hbprg9-2hAcEam
I must say, it looks really good without the white panel. Such a shame that most of the buses have white panels.

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I did a quick 5-minute edit of the ALX300. Thoughts?
 
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Thank you so much, much appreciated. I'm wondering just now if Stagecoach Fife has gotten rid of thier Geminis.
Yeah all of the Geminis have now left Scotland. I think some are still in service with Gillmoss depot in Cheshire

Here in Gloucester we have another repaint, and that’s ex gold MAN Enviro 300 22745 (GX58MVJ)
I don't know if it's just me, but I really hate how the green cuts into the wheelarch like that... It's not even as if it makes it easier to paint any replaced skirt panels as the green goes onto it a little.
 

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I did a quick 5-minute edit of the ALX300. Thoughts?
I like that. All it would need is for there to be a variant of the Stagecoach logo that would sit on it, so Stagey in white and a thin white band round the beachball (or whatever they are calling it now)

Better than trying to car crash a white panel on somewhere and would simplify front end repairs as it's one block of colour regardless of panel.
 

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That livery would be nice for the InterConnect services. Unfortunately the livery is specified by Lincolnshire County Council.
I’m not sure where this rumour comes from - it isn’t specified by the council at all, hence the 37 hasn’t ever used anything in InterConnect livery (I assume it’s still an IC route?), and neither has anything of Brylaine’s on the 5 or 7. Additionally, Norfolk Green never did either, although they did have some subtle route branding.
 

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I wonder why the MAN Enviro 300 rear looks so similar to that of an Wright Eclipse Urban. Does anyone know if Stagecoach Highlands Wright Eclipse Urbans will be painted in the new current Livery or will be withdrawn?

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What do we think of this? Stagecoach Manchester, I believe this to be the first Enviro 200 of this length to receive the Livery (pictured below)

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I wonder why the MAN Enviro 300 rear looks so similar to that of an Wright Eclipse Urban. Does anyone know if Stagecoach Highlands Wright Eclipse Urbans will be painted in the new current Livery or will be withdrawn?

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What do we think of this? Stagecoach Manchester, I believe this to be the first Enviro 200 of this length to receive the Livery.
That looks quite good! As @Azzy49 mentioned the livery looks better on smaller vehicles. One improvement would be to paint the headlights and the panel between in white like the SC North East E300's.
 
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