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Marcus Fryer

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Would those route 10 journeys to/from Severn Beach be a conversion of a current closed contract into a public service? They look designed to correspond with shift change times somewhere.
 
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10: Thornbury - Almondsbury - Aztec West* - Parkway - U.W.E - Lockleaze - Southmead Hospital - Westbury - Coombe Dingle - Lawrence Weston - Avonmouth - Severn Beach*
Replaces northern half of the 77, some of the 3B, the 11A, and it looks like a partial replacement for the SNB (Also know as Tesco and Lidl staff bus).

11: Aztec West* - Parkway - U.W.E - Lockleaze - Southmead Hospital - Westbury - Coombe Dingle - Shirehampton - Avonmouth
Replaces the 11, some of the 3B and the 625 between Parkway and U.W.E.

12: Severn Beach - Cribbs Causeway - Parkway
Replaces the 625 in part, looks like the new evening services are a registration of the dead runs from the Depot to Severn Beach/Avonmouth of the Amazon service(s).

13: Broadmead - Southmead Hospital - Westbury - Shirehampton
Replaces southern half of the 77 and the 508.

*Limited Service

I actually really admire Stagecoach for these changes it's been cleverly done to provide more links under a lower PVR. A few places loose out but some places gain too. It does help by removing the 11/11A and 508 from terminating at Southmead Hospital where there isn't really enough room for them too.

Gains:
Aztec West - Parkway (Peak flows get more buses than previous, but understandable as there will be extra passengers on the bus too).
Southmead - Parkway (Increased by 1 service per hour)

Losses:
Southmead - Westbury (Decreased by 1 service per hour)
Henbury - Avonmouth/Severn Beach (Section of the SNB, is covered by Amazon AZ1, not sure if there might be some changes there to allow Tesco/Lidl staff to catch it)
Aztec West - Parkway (3B returning to/from Parkway/Aztec West, against main flow)
 

martyjon

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10: Thornbury - Almondsbury - Aztec West* - Parkway - U.W.E - Lockleaze - Southmead Hospital - Westbury - Coombe Dingle - Lawrence Weston - Avonmouth - Severn Beach*
Replaces northern half of the 77, some of the 3B, the 11A, and it looks like a partial replacement for the SNB (Also know as Tesco and Lidl staff bus).

11: Aztec West* - Parkway - U.W.E - Lockleaze - Southmead Hospital - Westbury - Coombe Dingle - Shirehampton - Avonmouth
Replaces the 11, some of the 3B and the 625 between Parkway and U.W.E.

12: Severn Beach - Cribbs Causeway - Parkway
Replaces the 625 in part, looks like the new evening services are a registration of the dead runs from the Depot to Severn Beach/Avonmouth of the Amazon service(s).

13: Broadmead - Southmead Hospital - Westbury - Shirehampton
Replaces southern half of the 77 and the 508.

*Limited Service

I actually really admire Stagecoach for these changes it's been cleverly done to provide more links under a lower PVR. A few places loose out but some places gain too. It does help by removing the 11/11A and 508 from terminating at Southmead Hospital where there isn't really enough room for them too.

Gains:
Aztec West - Parkway (Peak flows get more buses than previous, but understandable as there will be extra passengers on the bus too).
Southmead - Parkway (Increased by 1 service per hour)

Losses:
Southmead - Westbury (Decreased by 1 service per hour)
Henbury - Avonmouth/Severn Beach (Section of the SNB, is covered by Amazon AZ1, not sure if there might be some changes there to allow Tesco/Lidl staff to catch it)
Aztec West - Parkway (3B returning to/from Parkway/Aztec West, against main flow)

Hope Travelwest/Traveline/ WRECA get some publicity out about these changes as well as Stagecoaches own timetables.
 

carlberry

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I actually really admire Stagecoach for these changes it's been cleverly done to provide more links under a lower PVR. A few places loose out but some places gain too. It does help by removing the 11/11A and 508 from terminating at Southmead Hospital where there isn't really enough room for them too.
That's assuming it's Stagecoach that's making the changes, not the councils that pay for most of the services effected.

School services also appear to be changing (unsurprisingly) with a new 910 service from Eagle replacing at least part of the 922 from Stagecoach plus the 411/432 cancelled and new services for Ridings (458/45/460) registered today.
 

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That's assuming it's Stagecoach that's making the changes, not the councils that pay for most of the services effected.

School services also appear to be changing (unsurprisingly) with a new 910 service from Eagle replacing at least part of the 922 from Stagecoach plus the 411/432 cancelled and new services for Ridings (458/45/460) registered today.
The Winterbourne Academy 427, 458, 459 and 460 are existing commercial closed services that have been registered as public. All to do with funding and capacity, I believe. They, together with the existing subsidised public 963, are the school's 5 school buses.
 

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That's assuming it's Stagecoach that's making the changes, not the councils that pay for most of the services effected.

School services also appear to be changing (unsurprisingly) with a new 910 service from Eagle replacing at least part of the 922 from Stagecoach plus the 411/432 cancelled and new services for Ridings (458/45/460) registered today.
I think the new PVR for the 10, 11, 12, 13 is 13 buses, which is an increase of the 12 which the 11, 11A, 77, 508, 625 needed but is a reduction overall when you take into account the 3B and SNB is absorbed into it. So it really does sound like a Stagecoach thing over WECA. There a few oddities like I can't work out what the bus on 07:55 Avonmouth - Bradley Stoke 11 service does the rest of the day or than hang around and work a 3X in the afternoon.

The 622 will run a schools dupe to start with in September.
 

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I think the new PVR for the 10, 11, 12, 13 is 13 buses, which is an increase of the 12 which the 11, 11A, 77, 508, 625 needed but is a reduction overall when you take into account the 3B and SNB is absorbed into it. So it really does sound like a Stagecoach thing over WECA. There a few oddities like I can't work out what the bus on 07:55 Avonmouth - Bradley Stoke 11 service does the rest of the day or than hang around and work a 3X in the afternoon.

It appears to work empty to Weston, then a couple of round trips to Severn Beach Lidl, then back to depot, then to the Centre to run a return trip to Amazon.
 

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It appears to work empty to Weston, then a couple of round trips to Severn Beach Lidl, then back to depot, then to the Centre to run a return trip to Amazon.
Ah thought it must have been something along those lines, wonder if it's a single or a double decker as the Amazon services are usually a double decker.
 

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Some fleet changes on the way for the soon to be released September changes...

YX67 batch of Enviro 400 MMCs for Cheltenham's Park and Ride route are debranded and cascaded to Swindon - E200 MMCs will now operate on the route.
Ex-Manchester magicbus ADL Enviro 400s off to Swindon and Stroud - mainly for Ciren college contract...
Gloucester sends 3 Scania 400s (3x VX62) to Swindon and 3 to Cheltenham (1x VX09, 2x VX62)
University Scanias on loan to Stroud to return to Chelt.

Could be some minor inaccuracys here and there so my apoligies however still very minimal detail about post-7th Sept capacity changes. Only Solo's remain SORN
 
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Some fleet changes on the way for the soon to be released September changes...

YX67 batch of Enviro 400 MMCs for Cheltenham's Park and Ride route are debranded and cascaded to Swindon - E200 MMCs will now operate on the route.
Ex-Manchester magicbus ADL Enviro 400s off to Swindon and Stroud - mainly for Ciren college contract...
Gloucester sends 3 Scania 400s (3x VX62) to Swindon and 3 to Cheltenham (1x VX09, 2x VX62)
University Scanias on loan to Stroud to return to Chelt.

Could be some minor inaccuracys here and there so my apoligies however still very minimal detail about post-7th Sept capacity changes. Only Solo's remain SORN

Appreciate this update, assume the elderly Stroud Tridents are also returning for college work too ?
 

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Appreciate this update, assume the elderly Stroud Tridents are also returning for college work too ?

I believe the MK02 ZF batch are being retired. Apparently they had to raise the age of the vehicles apart of an update to the college contract. However, nothing has been officially released yet so it's only news from drivers and supervisors. Once I find out officially I'll update this thread.

Movements so far
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19186-88 (ADL Enviro 400)
Wigan to Stroud
(MX57 DZL / MX57 DZN / MX57 DZM)
--
19165-67 (ADL Enviro 400)
Middleton to Swindon
(MX07 HNG / MX57 KYH / MX57 LCG)
--
15857-59 (Scania Enviro 400)
Gloucester to Swindon
(VX62 CZK / VX62 CZP / VX62 CZT)
--
15523/25 (Scania Enviro 400)
Gloucester to Stroud
(VX09 NBF / VX09 NBG / VX09 NBJ)
--
15980 (Scania Enviro 400)
Stroud to Cheltenham
(YN14 OWX)
--
36376/78 (ADL Enviro 200 8.9m)
Bristol to West Ham
--
36107/257 (ADL Enviro 200)
Bristol to Cheltenham
(MX59 JCY / VU11 BUE)
--
Planned movements
--
15524/26 Gloucester to Stroud (Scania Enviro 400)
(VX09 NBG / VX09 NBK)
--
22744-49/51-54 Bristol to Gloucester (MAN Enviro 300)
(GX58 MVH / GX58 MVJ / GX58 MVK / GX58 MVL / GX58 MVM / GX58 MVN / GX58 MVP / GX58 MVR / GX58 MVS / GX58 MVT)
--
10994-96 Cheltenham to Swindon (ADL Enviro 400 MMC)
(SN18 KVC / SN18 KVD / SN18 KVE)
--
18414/15 Bristol to Stroud (ALX400)
(AE06 GZL / AE06 GZM)
 
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I believe the MK02 ZF batch are being retired. Apparently they had to raise the age of the vehicles apart of an update to the college contract. However, nothing has been officially released yet so it's only news from drivers and supervisors. Once I find out officially I'll update this thread.

Thats brilliant, thanks ! I did wonder how long those ones would last, but glad Stroud are keeping some Tridents anyway.
 

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Would somebody be able to tell me what type of bus is used on service 77 (Cirencester-Highworth), including the Cirencester College run from Burford?
 

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Would somebody be able to tell me what type of bus is used on service 77 (Cirencester-Highworth), including the Cirencester College run from Burford?

Deckers normally, scania E400s. However with Swindon getting more MMCs and the ADL 400s they seem ever more likely.
 

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Would somebody be able to tell me what type of bus is used on service 77 (Cirencester-Highworth), including the Cirencester College run from Burford?
77 is usually aSolo or a Dart. College run probably a decker E400 or trident.
 

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Two things:
- Seen in Westbury-on-Trym today working a Service 10 journey from Avonmouth to Bristol Parkway was ALX400 18349 (AE55 DKX).

- One change I have not seen mentioned on the Travelwest site is that, according to TravelineSW, Stagecoach have taken over Service 2 (Mulberry Park - Bath City Centre) effective 06-Sep-2020. There is no TT on Traveline SW for any Service 2 in Bath operated by First but according to the First website their current Service 2 timetable has been in play since 02-Aug-2020 so this could be a slip-up by TSW.

Dave
 

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Two things:
- Seen in Westbury-on-Trym today working a Service 10 journey from Avonmouth to Bristol Parkway was ALX400 18349 (AE55 DKX).

- One change I have not seen mentioned on the Travelwest site is that, according to TravelineSW, Stagecoach have taken over Service 2 (Mulberry Park - Bath City Centre) effective 06-Sep-2020. There is no TT on Traveline SW for any Service 2 in Bath operated by First but according to the First website their current Service 2 timetable has been in play since 02-Aug-2020 so this could be a slip-up by TSW.

Dave
It is a mess up by traveline
 

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Stagecoach provide all 5 school buses for Winterbourne Academy. This has just been posted in the school Facebook page...

URGENT MESSAGE FOR SCHOOL BUS PASSENGERS

Due to a serious incident at the Royal Mail building in Patchway, Police have closed Gipsy Patch Lane, which is the only road to and from the Stagecoach bus depot.

There’s a high probability of disruption to our school buses throughout this morning, but Stagecoach are doing all they can to make service as soon as circumstances allow.

Presume this will affect all Stagecoach North Bristol buses.
 

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