Anonymous10
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I wonder how the ferries from Wales to Ireland fairedSaw that a bit earlier.....NO THANKS is all I'll say. I can get seasick on a millpond.
I wonder how the ferries from Wales to Ireland fairedSaw that a bit earlier.....NO THANKS is all I'll say. I can get seasick on a millpond.
If the expenses are incurred as part of a work trip, I'd be expecting the employer to foot the bill.
Saw that a bit earlier.....NO THANKS is all I'll say. I can get seasick on a millpond.
Going home is not a non-essential journey unless the railway is coughing up for hotels (despite NRCoT they were not doing so) and providing indemnity against loss of pay/being sacked due to non-attendance at work.
It's not always that simple though is it. I, like an increasing number of people, work away from home for a week or more at a time. If I have to travel home on a given day, I have to - it's not a non essential journey and, often, can't be rearranged with anything less than 10 days notice. I'm also self-employed, so I would be very, very surprised if my 'clients' were willing to foot the bill.Sorry, but this argument doesn't cut it. Last weekend a 'Do Not Travel' was released on Thursday PM for Sunday given people plenty of advance warning, alternative travel options, ticket restrictions lifted etc. They could've traveled back home on the Saturday evening or Monday had travel allowed it. But plenty of people just didn't think that this information related to them and there should be some personal culpability for these kind of decision making - to me it just seems selfish and yes there is always the 1% who had no other option (e.g returning from holiday etc) but not the numbers that were seen last weekend.
I was supposed to go to Edinburgh this weekend. Chose not to - raided Sainsbury's and stayed in all weekend. Why? I took the advice of the rail operators and the Met Office - because they just might know what they're on about.
It comes down to this: a contract is a contract. Weather like this is not unforeseeable, and TOCs were well aware it could happen when they entered into a contract with me. I have every right to expect, even demand, that they meet their responsibilities, and to enforce that right if needs be.
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If it's late in the day, don't worry if you're already travelling - we will look after you. Where it is not possible to carry on by train, we will provide a bus or a taxis - and if all else fails, we'll book you into a hotel.
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You shouldn't have to pay more because of this incident.
We will:
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I'm not sure they could have foreseen storm Dennis when they sold an Advance ticket for a specified train three months ago, or a season ticket a year ago?
Go wrong----Go wrong----Go wrong---------We’re pretty well known for dry conditions here.
What could possibly go wrong...
What is YOUR advice for people already away, having travelled out before Thursday PM. If you have an Advance, and wished to come home early, you were not allowed to do so. This week, the advice for Dennis was to still travel, no refunds were being offered.Sorry, but this argument doesn't cut it. Last weekend a 'Do Not Travel' was released on Thursday PM for Sunday given people plenty of advance warning, alternative travel options, ticket restrictions lifted etc. They could've traveled back home on the Saturday evening or Monday had travel allowed it. But plenty of people just didn't think that this information related to them and there should be some personal culpability for these kind of decision making - to me it just seems selfish and yes there is always the 1% who had no other option (e.g returning from holiday etc) but not the numbers that were seen last weekend.
I was supposed to go to Edinburgh this weekend. Chose not to - raided Sainsbury's and stayed in all weekend. Why? I took the advice of the rail operators and the Met Office - because they just might know what they're on about.
What is YOUR advice for people already away, having travelled out before Thursday PM. If you have an Advance, and wished to come home early, you were not allowed to do so. This week, the advice for Dennis was to still travel, no refunds were being offered.
It is certainly foreseeable that weather of that nature occurs in the UK. It's not frequent (though we've been unlucky enough to have it two weeks running this year) but it is certainly foreseeable that it occurs (and will occur more due to climate change).
Well, you were allowed to, but you'd need to buy a new ticket.
The risk you run opting for a cheaper Advance ticket.
My advice would have been - get a new ticket and get home before the worst of the weather.
According to RealTimeTrains there has been no service at all today on the Chase Line between Birmingham New Street and Rugeley. That's to be expected there's flooding.
However looking at the West Midlands Railway website it only says no trains are running between New Street and Walsall. Now I know us on here will know that if there's no trains from BHM to Walsall there'll be none to Rugeley either. But for many travellers that won't be clear.
The rail companies aren't very helpful sometimes.
There have been threads over the years on this website that discuss the possibility of re-opening of the Carmarthen to Aberystwyth former rail line. Can anyone say how the areas passed through by that particular line have fared over the last two days.
Well, you were allowed to, but you'd need to buy a new ticket.
The risk you run opting for a cheaper Advance ticket.
My advice would have been - get a new ticket and get home before the worst of the weather.
Storm Dennis done a number on the Inverclyde line this weekend.
Saturday there was flooding at Langbank, Today an aqueduct at Bishopton broke and gushed tons of water onto the live OHLE. Very lucky there wasn’t a train there.
If it was employer-initiated certainly (and my employer indeed did when the ash cloud stranded me abroad on a work trip), but not if that person took the job based in London themselves.
It's not always that simple though is it. I, like an increasing number of people, work away from home for a week or more at a time. If I have to travel home on a given day, I have to - it's not a non essential journey and, often, can't be rearranged with anything less than 10 days notice. I'm also self-employed, so I would be very, very surprised if my 'clients' were willing to foot the bill.
Disruption I can accept, but my contract with the train company is clear: get me there, by alternative transport if needs be; or if not put me up in a hotel.
Other than one occasion when I had to 'encourage' a Northern staff member to get me a taxi (I was perfectly polite, I should add, just firm) I've never had any problems. But, I would have absolutely no hesitation at all in taking a TOC to court if I was treated in the way other passengers have been this, and last, weekend.
It comes down to this: a contract is a contract. Weather like this is not unforeseeable, and TOCs were well aware it could happen when they entered into a contract with me. I have every right to expect, even demand, that they meet their responsibilities, and to enforce that right if needs be.
I am in the CS southbound Lowlander. All going tickety-boo (and about 10 mins ahead of schedule) but have come to a halt north of Stafford and been stuck here for well over half an hour. I am no expert on either trains or topography but a quick look at Google Maps suggest that area around Shugburough looks like it might get a bit moist... Anyone know what’s up?
The problem, I think, isn't people being reckless so much as it's the fact that, to the individual, of course their journey is 'essential'. Random examples, but the person who has non-refundable tickets to a gig, a non-flexible hotel booking, or had arranged to visit an elderly relative, etc. Whilst, objectively, we might argue those are non-essential journeys, they're not likely to be seen as such by the people actually making them.If a threat to life warning is issued and people ignore Do Not Travel warnings 48+ hours in advance, that's a different kettle of fish. Of course, as I explained, some circumstances are different. However, you can't tell me that all those people who chose to travel last Sunday needed to and couldn't have traveled the day before or after. It's nonsense - some people simply don't think that the advice given applies to them and for them I have no sympathy. It seems too many are quite happy to put the safety of others at risk.