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Extract from NRE site:-

Salisbury and Exeter St Davids
A landslip in the Templecombe area means that trains are currently unable to run between Gillingham and Exeter St Davids. This is expected to continue until at least the end of service.
A limited bus replacement service is in operation between Gillingham and Exeter St Davids. Passengers may use Great Western Railway services between London Paddington and Exeter St Davids, and between Salisbury and Exeter via Westbury. London Underground are accepting tickets on the Bakerloo Line if you need to travel between London Waterloo and London Paddington.


Somebody has posted elsewhere just 1 bus !!!
 

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Extract from NRE site:-

Salisbury and Exeter St Davids
A landslip in the Templecombe area means that trains are currently unable to run between Gillingham and Exeter St Davids. This is expected to continue until at least the end of service.
A limited bus replacement service is in operation between Gillingham and Exeter St Davids. Passengers may use Great Western Railway services between London Paddington and Exeter St Davids, and between Salisbury and Exeter via Westbury. London Underground are accepting tickets on the Bakerloo Line if you need to travel between London Waterloo and London Paddington.


Somebody has posted elsewhere just 1 bus !!!

So, with a landslip at Templecombe, the service is severed. Understandably.

But, oh why, can they not run a service between a) Exeter -Salisbury via Westbury or, b) if insufficient cres trained for that route, at least Exeter - Yeovil Jcn?

Are they are not telling us about some other problem, or is it a case of hands thrown in air and 'get buses out'?
 

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Looking at RTT, the 1320 Waterloo has got through and departed from Honiton at 1718. There have been 3 SWT units in Exeter New Yard all day. I'd have thought if the line was up and running, by now SWT should have been able to taxi a train crew to start something up from that end.
 

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Looking at RTT, the 1320 Waterloo has got through and departed from Honiton at 1718. There have been 3 SWT units in Exeter New Yard all day. I'd have thought if the line was up and running, by now SWT should have been able to taxi a train crew to start something up from that end.

Why do they need to use taxis? Surely they have crews that sign on at Exeter? I mean, they need them for at least the early morning departures? Why could these crews not do AT LEAST a reduced Exeter - Yeovil service ?

Unless, of course, there are or were other problems, in which case, why not explain these too?

anyway, good news that the 13.20 got through - from the photo, it seems that the down line is clear, but I guess it would have to be taken very slowly in case of distortion from the slip.
 

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I get confused; is the storm now called Katie or Sandy?! Or 2 you have 2 storms on the same day.
 

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Why do they need to use taxis? Surely they have crews that sign on at Exeter? I mean, they need them for at least the early morning departures? Why could these crews not do AT LEAST a reduced Exeter - Yeovil service ?

Unless things have changed - all services are resourced by Salisbury crews - making a night shift with some spare time at Exeter part of life.
 

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I definitely get the 'oh dear, what can we do, it's Bank Holiday' feeling about this.

I just wonder if the lines through Sherborne are bi-di? If they are, I don't see the need for the total stoppage that occurred.

Perhaps someone knows the detail.
 

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I get confused; is the storm now called Katie or Sandy?! Or 2 you have 2 storms on the same day.
The only person to mention a storm called Sandy is you! The only reference to of Sandy up-thread thread is to Sandy, Bedfordshire.
 

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Unless things have changed - all services are resourced by Salisbury crews - making a night shift with some spare time at Exeter part of life.

Really? Astonishing. The shed foremen of Exmouth Junction must be gyrating in their graves in anger.
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I definitely get the 'oh dear, what can we do, it's Bank Holiday' feeling about this.

I just wonder if the lines through Sherborne are bi-di? If they are, I don't see the need for the total stoppage that occurred.

Perhaps someone knows the detail.

I can imagine that the pw would need to be carefully checked first for potential movement/instability of the track - even if it was clear of soil from the slip. But yes, I can imagine if this had happened before c 1970, there would be trains running for most of the day, with wrong line working implemented. Such is the modern railway. We'd have certainly lost the war if we'd run the railways with today's philosophy - more soldiers would have died at Dover station than on the beaches of Dunkerque.
 

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We'd have certainly lost the war if we'd run the railways with today's philosophy - more soldiers would have died at Dover station than on the beaches of Dunkerque.

A tad emotive comment perhaps, but there was certainly a sense of management away at the races. I could be unfair here, so I shall be interested to see what is in place tomorrow, a working day.
 

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Buses have been in use as far as I can tell :)
I was going on a hand written notice at Exeter Central which originally stated there was a VERY limited replacement road service, but was subsequently amended by more paper obscuring "a VERY limited" with NO. Don't you love the high tech world we live in!
 

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As far as I could tell the ECML was supposed to be running normally today; the OHL damage has meant that VTEC, GC and presumably HT (I saw the first two incidentally whilst near the station) were running via Cambridge for the third day in a row.
 

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106 mph winds reported. Bit more blustery than usual..............................

at Needles IOW. Still pretty lively along the south coast as I am posting this
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Is she, Katie , having any averse effect on Network Rails various upgrades and improvements to the railways over this Easter? Calm but damp ( usual Bank Holiday weather )here in Lancashire).. I hear tress down over tracks in Kent, Dartford crossing close due to high winds,..

Severn bridge as well
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January bring the snow,
makes your feet and fingers glow.
February's ice and sleet,
freeze the toes right off your feet
Welcome March with wintry wind
would thou weren't so unkind.
April brings the sweet rain showers,
on and on for hours and hours.
Farmers fear unkindly May,
frost by night and hail by day.
June just rains and never stops,
thirty days and spoils the crops.
In July the sun is hot,
is it shining? No it's not.
August cold and dank and wet,
brings more rain than any yet.
Bleak September's mist and mud,
is enough to chill the blood.
Then October adds a gale,
wind and slush and rain and hail.
Dark November brings the fog,
should not do it to a dog.
Freezing wet December then,
bloody January again!

Flanders and Swann after Sarah Coleridge.

One of my favourites, although it should be

"April brings the sweet Spring showers....

Has anyone mentioned temporary disruption due to fallen tree Bournemouth - Southampton this morning
 
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Pretty chaotic on some GWR Bristol area services this morning and into the afternoon. A morning train from Portsmouth left about 2 hours late due to an obstruction on the line and there were further delays to trains after. There has also been flooding between Maiden Newton and Yeovil Pen Mill which has caused cancellations and delays most of the day for Bristol - Weymouth services.

Not sure if it was storm related but there was signalling failure between Patchway and Severn Tunnel Junction this afternoon/evening.
 

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In addition, RTT is reporting trains not going between Exeter Central and St Davids 'due to flooding'. I could not work that one out.
 

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A fallen tree has damaged overhead lines between Shenfield and Wickford, reducing service on that line to just 2 trains per hour in the peak.
 

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106 mph winds reported. Bit more blustery than usual..............................

Only if you normally regard The Needles as your home...:D

I can well imagine in a "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch, mention of 106mph winds would bring forth a comment such..."That's nobbut a breeze in Cleckheaton"...:D
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Is she, Katie , having any averse effect on Network Rails various upgrades and improvements to the railways over this Easter?

Does anyone have any news of how the storm has affected the works that have closed the Dover to Folkestone line section. Not sure what the ground substrate is like in the area of the Network Rail works there.
 
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Only if you normally regard The Needles as your home...:D

I live just across the Solent from the Needles, Pennington marshes gives zero protection, so the 106mph blast recorded would not be dissimilar to where I live.

Perpaps the most spectacular incident was collapse of scaffolding at Reading.

remember the train blown off the line, Owencarrow viaduct NI
 

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So, with a landslip at Templecombe, the service is severed. Understandably.

But, oh why, can they not run a service between a) Exeter -Salisbury via Westbury or, b) if insufficient cres trained for that route, at least Exeter - Yeovil Jcn?

Are they are not telling us about some other problem, or is it a case of hands thrown in air and 'get buses out'?

There were also issues with flooding in the Crewkerne area in the early morning, which blocked the line between Exeter and Yeovil for some time. There were plans to run a shuttle train service between Exeter and Axminster but the landslip at Templecombe put paid to that.
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Oh, I also forgot that there was a blanket 50mph speed restriction across the Wessex area until 08:00am as well.
 

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There were plans to run a shuttle train service between Exeter and Axminster but the landslip at Templecombe put paid to that.
Why would a landslip at Templecombe prevent a shuttle service from Exeter to Axminster running? Did it sever a signalling cable or something?
 

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Why would a landslip at Templecombe prevent a shuttle service from Exeter to Axminster running? Did it sever a signalling cable or something?

The traincrew would have to be transported from Salisbury by road, thinking back I think there were also concerns about flooding on certain road routes. I'm not certain of all the technicalities involved but I recall it was a problem.
 
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