I think a victim of the COVID axes, but there used to be a 10-444 16:45 service to Havant which was first stop Guildford, running via Cobham. It was a really nice service to take home. I think there was a 12-450 17:15 Fratton too which did the same.
There are some non-stop services such as the 18:15 from Portsmouth Harbour that runs via the New Line Guildford, aka via Cobham
I think it depends how many miles they are to an exam. That’s what’s forced the retirement of the other three not being converted.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
how many /4s are now in passenger service?New in passenger service today as a 458/4 is 458403
Realtime Trains | 2S45 1522 London Waterloo to Weybridge | 08/01/2025
Real-time train running information for 2S45 1522 departure from London Waterloo to Weybridge on 08/01/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Seems like they’re getting them all in service then. Originally it was just 18
Current is 16 but from May I think is 24. Some bits came for 423 this week. It was proper fried so it’s a big job and the priority is going to the service units.
Assuming the last handful of 458/5s are ever closer to their final withdrawal by now?
I haven’t checked the mileages for a while but when a C4 or C6 mileage is reached then the blue unit concerned stands down. 458/4 are getting a C4 when due.
I think there’s only two pairs left so it cannot be long at all.
8529/30/33/35/36. Five for four diagrams. 8533 on exam today. 29+36 and 30+35 in play.
yup, the routes which were previously mentioned on this thread. they did PTI test runs to Woking via Staines/Windsor & Bracknell in December.According to this picture, SWR appears to be looking into expanding the routes covered by 458/4s
I thought originally the number required was determined by their intended use in 12 car formations on the Portsmouth services. So presumably it was worked out as so many diagrams and enough over for maintenance.
I know I've said it before, but why on earth didn't they go the extra 10 miles to Reading?! Going as as far as Bracknell is only useful for two MF evening services and during relevant engineering works.
I still thought it was better to have the last two units.
Yes it‘s odd. Not as if 2 units are going to be any use elsewhere…
Image source/link, please. The image is not loading.According to this picture, SWR appears to be looking into expanding the routes covered by 458/4s
Weirdly enough, neither is it for me anymore, despite it being fully functional this morning.
It's 8 units. All of 458529-536 go off lease.
They've barely got the staff to run the service as it is, running them to Reading LTP would mean taking crew off other work to balance out the roster with current staffing levels.
Sorry, I don't follow. My query was if they were testing as far as Bracknell, why they didn't go the short distance to Reading while they were about it. It would add an extra hour to the test. That's hardly going to bring the whole SWR network to its knees.
Yes I’m well aware of that. But I was replying to a question about units 29 and 30 only, and ignoring the ex 460s
I am sure that I read in this thread that the 458/4s are not permitted to operate between Bracknell and Reading as they are out of gauge because of the stiffer suspension installed during the refurbishment to support the proposed faster running on the Portsmouth Direct services.
Oh my mistake I misinterpreted your post
