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Siemens Staines

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WarrenTManager said:
See edit in my post.
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Thank you.


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Thursday 17/10/24
458424 has become the 17th 458/4 to enter passenger service today

Realtime Trains | 2S07 0552 London Waterloo to Weybridge | 17/10/2024

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It looks like only four of the six pairs of 458/4 diagrams are actually being covered by 458/4 so far today.
 
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Siemens Staines said:
Thursday 17/10/24
458424 has become the 17th 458/4 to enter passenger service today
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Thanks for this.

I have sixteen in service: 401, 408, 409, 410, 412, 413. 415. 420, 421, 422, 423, 424, 425, 426, 427 and 428 (not in order of delivery).

I reckon the seventeenth will be one of 404 (returned to Bournemouth 24th Jan '24, post 2,329), or 407 or 417 (both returned to Bournemouth 23rd Oct '23, post 1,883).

Can anyone advise which one it is, please, and when it first entered service?

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458416 is the one you're missing. I can't remember the exact date it entered service, but at least a month ago.
 
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458416 entered service 09.09.24

458423 entered service 13.08.24 but only lasted until 21.08.24 when it failed at Queenstown Road on 2S43 and has not worked since. So sixteen in service of the seventeen that have worked is probably a fair statement?
 
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Siemens Staines said:
458416 entered service 09.09.24

458423 entered service 13.08.24 but only lasted until 21.08.24 when it failed at Queenstown on 2S43 and has not worked since. So sixteen in service of the seventeen that have worked is probably a fair statement?
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8423 suffered a massive electrical fault unrelated to any works. It’s having to have a lot of wiring and components replaced.
 
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Roger B said:
Thanks for this.

I have sixteen in service: 401, 408, 409, 410, 412, 413. 415. 420, 421, 422, 423, 424, 425, 426, 427 and 428 (not in order of delivery).

I reckon the seventeenth will be one of 404 (returned to Bournemouth 24th Jan '24, post 2,329), or 407 or 417 (both returned to Bournemouth 23rd Oct '23, post 1,883).

Can anyone advise which one it is, please, and when it first entered service?

Many thanks
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Really - almost a year and not used, I wonder why ?.
 
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2S45 covered by 8514/8529 vice the usual pair of /4s today, rather surprising!
 
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Paths are now on RTT for the delivery of, I presume, 458402 from Widnes to SWR and the first leg of 458519 journey in the opposite direction.

Tuesday 22nd October 2024
5F63 0514 Leicester L.I.P. to Widnes Transport Tech

Realtime Trains | 5F63 0514 Leicester L.I.P. to Widnes Transport Tech | 22/10/2024

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5Q63 1140 Widnes Transport Tech to Wembley Receptions 1-7

Realtime Trains | 5Q63 1140 Widnes Transport Tech to Wembley Receptions 1-7 | 22/10/2024

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Wednesday 23rd October 2024
5X64 1217 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Southampton Central

Realtime Trains | 5X64 1217 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Southampton Central | 23/10/2024

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5Q64 1603 Southampton Central to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D

Realtime Trains | 5Q64 1603 Southampton Central to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 23/10/2024

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5Z66 2008 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh East Yard

Realtime Trains | 5Z66 2008 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh East Yard | 23/10/2024

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And the onward path from Eastleigh is now on RTT

Thursday 24th October 2024
5Q95 1748 Eastleigh East Yard to Widnes Transport Tech

Realtime Trains | 5Q95 1748 Eastleigh East Yard to Widnes Transport Tech | 24/10/2024

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May I know how long the remaining ex Gatwick Express (458531-458536) units will remain? I would go to London at the beginning of December and take some pictures of them.
 
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On todays 2S53 17:22 Waterloo to Weybridge service: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L61827/2024-11-02/detailed#allox_id=0 the CIS on 458413 (and I assume 458425 as well) announced that due to short platforms at the next station Hounslow you must leave from front 8 coaches. Which is really helpful considering there the service only had 8 coaches. Did no-one update the CIS to reflect the loss of the 5th car during the conversion from 458/5 to 458/4?
 
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Ian Hardy said:
On todays 2S53 17:22 Waterloo to Weybridge service: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L61827/2024-11-02/detailed#allox_id=0 the CIS on 458413 (and I assume 458425 as well) announced that due to short platforms at the next station Hounslow you must leave from front 8 coaches. Which is really helpful considering there the service only had 8 coaches. Did no-one update the CIS to reflect the loss of the 5th car during the conversion from 458/5 to 458/4?
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Still hasn’t been updated on any of them as far as I’m aware
 
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Janos97 said:
May I know how long the remaining ex Gatwick Express (458531-458536) units will remain? I would go to London at the beginning of December and take some pictures of them.
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As far as I'm aware 458531, 32 and 34 (all ex gatwicks) have been withdrawn from service so that leaves 33, 35 and 36. Not sure when those will go. Likely when they run out of lease miles.
 
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It might have been mentioned before, but is it possible for a 458/4 and a 458/5 to run together and if so has it happened ? As there are only 3 x 458/5s left in service it seems unlikely to happen now.
 
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wickham said:
It might have been mentioned before, but is it possible for a 458/4 and a 458/5 to run together and if so has it happened ? As there are only 3 x 458/5s left in service it seems unlikely to happen now.
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Only 3? What about 458029 and 458030, which are not part of the conversion programme?
 
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wickham said:
It might have been mentioned before, but is it possible for a 458/4 and a 458/5 to run together and if so has it happened ? As there are only 3 x 458/5s left in service it seems unlikely to happen now.
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not in passenger service.
 
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