SWR Metro fleet permanent withdrawals

[brad465]

The transfer paths for 707024 and 707030 are now on RTT. The pair are leaving the network early morning on the 07/09
Wimbledon park depot sidings to Waterloo

Realtime Trains | 5Z19 2319 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to London Waterloo | 06/09/2024

Real-time train running information for 5Z19 2319 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to London Waterloo on 06/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Waterloo to Gillingham E.M.U.D

Realtime Trains | 5Z20 0009 London Waterloo to Gillingham E.M.U.D. | 07/09/2024

Real-time train running information for 5Z20 0009 departure from London Waterloo to Gillingham E.M.U.D. on 07/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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A rare track move on the old Eurostar chord by the looks of things.

 

[OneTrackMinded]

The 2 707s arrived into Gillingham very early this morning, at around 2am. This marks the end of 707s for SWR

 

[swt_passenger]

The 2 707s arrived into Gillingham very early this morning, at around 2am. This marks the end of 707s for SWR

Also marks the fact that a relatively simple process took getting on for 3 years. I wonder how the planned timescale read back in Sep 2021?

 

[OneTrackMinded]

Also marks the fact that a relatively simple process took getting on for 3 years. I wonder how the planned timescale read back in Sep 2021?

I think we all know why it took so long...

 

[The_Train]

I presume all of the other 707s are now in SE Blue?

 

[Stephen42]

I presume all of the other 707s are now in SE Blue?

Yep all the others are in SE Blue and have been used in passenger service on Southeastern.

 

[warwickshire]

www.realtimetrains.co.uk and old rail record Websites are showing the following.
Friday 13th September 2024.
1. 5Q94 0626 Wimbledon park Csd to Long Marston. Involving barrier vehicles.
Does anyone know which unit is going into store at Long Marston please.
Thank you
Warwickshire

 

[LocalInspector]

Hello does anyone know if these units still exist. They haven’t been out to play for ages?
455/7
716,720,729,732,735
455/8
851,862,865
455/9
904

Thank you in advance.

 

[swr444]

Hello does anyone know if these units still exist. They haven’t been out to play for ages?
455/7
716,720,729,732,735
455/8
851,862,865
455/9
904

Thank you in advance.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L59899/2024-09-11#allox_id=0 455865 was out solo today

455720 went out on the 1050 woking
455862 is out on the sheppertons 1142 from waterloo for example

 

[WarrenTManager]

Hello does anyone know if these units still exist. They haven’t been out to play for ages?
455/7
716,720,729,732,735
455/8
851,862,865
455/9
904

Thank you in advance.

5729 stopped waiting material
5716/5735/5851 are at Bournemouth for C4. 5732 is in the queue for C4. 5904 has one carriage away for corrosion repairs at Brodies.

 

[LocalInspector]

5729 stopped waiting material
5716/5735/5851 are at Bournemouth for C4. 5732 is in the queue for C4. 5904 has one carriage away for corrosion repairs at Brodies.

Thank you

 

[SEtrains]

www.realtimetrains.co.uk and old rail record Websites are showing the following.
Friday 13th September 2024.
1. 5Q94 0626 Wimbledon park Csd to Long Marston. Involving barrier vehicles.
Does anyone know which unit is going into store at Long Marston please.
Thank you
Warwickshire

Seems as though 37510 and 37884 are involved with this

 

[Siemens Staines]

716,720,729,732,735

If the allocation on RTT is correct, then 5735 is in service today but @WarrenTManager is an authoritative source, so this allocation could be wrong?

Realtime Trains | 2C16 0709 Reading to London Waterloo | 12/09/2024

Real-time train running information for 2C16 0709 departure from Reading to London Waterloo on 12/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[Snow1964]

5729 stopped waiting material
5716/5735/5851 are at Bournemouth for C4. 5732 is in the queue for C4. 5904 has one carriage away for corrosion repairs at Brodies.

So they are paying to repair 40 year old trains,
whilst also paying leases on new 701s

I wonder how much longer repairs will be sanctioned, rather than withdrawal

 

[swr444]

If the allocation on RTT is correct, then 5735 is in service today but @WarrenTManager is an authoritative source, so this allocation could be wrong?

Realtime Trains | 2C16 0709 Reading to London Waterloo | 12/09/2024

Real-time train running information for 2C16 0709 departure from Reading to London Waterloo on 12/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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It’s showing as out and about on our internal site genius so maybe it’s just returned from its C4

 

[WarrenTManager]

It’s showing as out and about on our internal site genius so maybe it’s just returned from its C4

Came back yesterday afternoon! BM must have done the ex-C4 exam as well as it's gone straight into traffic.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk and old rail record Websites are showing the following.
Friday 13th September 2024.
1. 5Q94 0626 Wimbledon park Csd to Long Marston. Involving barrier vehicles.
Does anyone know which unit is going into store at Long Marston please.
Thank you
Warwickshire

I'd imagine 8534. 8531 has also had handback work but 8534 is showing as being on 1 New Sidings where its handily placed for forming up with the barriers. 8531 is in the shed. Don't think they can take both?

 

[Goldfish62]

So they are paying to repair 40 year old trains,
whilst also paying leases on new 701s

I wonder how much longer repairs will be sanctioned, rather than withdrawal

I imagine it will stop as soon as the first all-day 701 diagram displaces a pair of 450s off Windsor services.

 

[fb2126]

www.realtimetrains.co.uk and old rail record Websites are showing the following.
Friday 13th September 2024.
1. 5Q94 0626 Wimbledon park Csd to Long Marston. Involving barrier vehicles.
Does anyone know which unit is going into store at Long Marston please.
Thank you
Warwickshire

Not sure of the unit but 37884 and 37510 were on that drag

 

[sharpinf]

Not sure of the unit but 37884 and 37510 were on that drag

It was 458534

37884 & 510 breaking the silence in Wimbledon Park this morning . Farewell 458534 it’s been a pleasure.

x.com

x.com

 

[fb2126]

It was 458534

x.com

x.com

Thank you for that

 

[SWT_USER]

Absolutely crazy that these are going off lease whilst SWR are running 4 coach services in the peak.

 

[swr444]

Absolutely crazy that these are going off lease whilst SWR are running 4 coach services in the peak.

run out of miles and no one wants to pay for a C4 exam

 

[Notchapple]

Apologies, had posted this in the SE thread by accident earlier.

Some metro services are running fast between Raynes Park and Waterloo "due to overcrowding as the train is formed of fewer coaches than usual"

I wonder if it will reach a point where SWR will have to choose between cancelling a diagram or shortform more services and still cancel some of the calling points

 

[nctd2306]

Does anyone have any idea what the status of 455856? Haven't seen it for a while and it hasn't come up when searching for it on RTT either.

Also the stock shortage has bitten big this week with far too many 4 car sets on busy services, including 2C55 Waterloo to Reading two days in a row...
Guessing this is due to "more trains than usual needing repairs" or something along those lines.

 

[Goldfish62]

Does anyone have any idea what the status of 455856? Haven't seen it for a while and it hasn't come up when searching for it on RTT either.

Also the stock shortage has bitten big this week with far too many 4 car sets on busy services, including 2C55 Waterloo to Reading two days in a row...
Guessing this is due to "more trains than usual needing repairs" or something along those lines.

Given that 12 458/4s are now diagrammed, plus one extra 701, both together surely more than balancing out withdrawn 458/5s this surely indicates that 455s are now becoming unavailable.

 

[LUYMun]

@nctd2306 5856 to be staying at Clapham Junction since early August.

 

[TEW]

Given that 12 458/4s are now diagrammed, plus one extra 701, both together surely more than balancing out withdrawn 458/5s this surely indicates that 455s are now becoming unavailable.

The number of 455 diagrams has dropped, there's often a diagram being covered by 458s too. A year ago it was near enough unheard of for a 455 diagram to be shortformed. Availability has definitely dipped.

 

[SEtrains]

@nctd2306 5856 to be staying at Clapham Junction since early August.

Will swr bother returning it to service or will it just be a trip to Newport docks?

 

[Snow1964]

Will swr bother returning it to service or will it just be a trip to Newport docks?

Must be very difficult to justify spending money on any repairs or overhauls of 455s, now that SWR are apparently leasing upto about 600 of the 750 class 701s vehicles that have passed fault free running

 

[SEtrains]

Must be very difficult to justify spending money on any repairs or overhauls of 455s, now that SWR are apparently leasing upto about 600 of the 750 class 701s vehicles that have passed fault free running

Thanks. I wonder when it will leave the network