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YorkshireBear

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Are there any particular regulations/rules/restrictions that come with the light rail/heavy rail share between Pelaw - Sunderland on the Metro. I could do with some information on them and google is being rather awkaward and not providing....

Any help appreciated.
 
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When the Metro extension was constructed, the signalling systems were completely replaced and altered in order to ensure the maximum level of protection from collisions between the comparatively lightweight Metrocars (Which don't feature even the slightest of crumple zones, with seats alongside the drivers' cabs) and traditional heavy rail stock and heavy freight trains.

Four aspect signalling was installed over the Pelaw - Sunderland section of the line when the Metro was introduced, replacing what I remember being three aspect signalling, in order to give trains greater warning of occupied sections up ahead and more opportunity to brake, as well as to allow the increase in frequency.

There is also a delay in the change in signalling aspects when a train leaves one section and then enters another, so that the signal protecting the entrance to the section that the train has just exited remains at red for a little while after the train has passed into the next section. This is in order to increase the distance between the Metros and the train behind and to help insure against collisions in case of a serious SPAD. You can watch this process in action at most of the stations on the Pelaw to Sunderland section (Excluding Stadium of Light and St Peters).

Drivers must also perform a radio changeover from Metro control at South Gosforth to Network Rail, presumably Tyneside ICC, at Pelaw when heading towards Sunderland, and vice versa when travelling in the oppostie direction. The reporting code of the Metro trains also changes when moving from Metro infrastructure to Network Rail lines, with the Metro's three digit train reporting numbers (Such as "106") changing to a 2I?? headcode where the last two digits correspond to the Metro reporting number, so in this example it would become 2I06.

Differential speed limits have also been introduced on the Heworth - Sunderland extension since the Metro was introduced, permitting different maximum speeds for the Metros and for heavy rail stock. The Tyne & Wear Metro has always displayed line speed limits in kilometres per hour on it's own network rather than the more traditional miles per hour employed by Network Rail, so on the Sunderland extension the speed limits for Metro trains are shown in both miles per hour (On a circular sign) and in kilometres per hour on a hexagonal sign positioned lower down. The Tyne & Wear Metro used to display line speed limits (in kph) on circular signs across it's own self-contained network, but I think that these have now all been altered to hexagonal signs to match those on the Sunderland extension to avoid any potential for confusion.

There are some examples of the differential speed limit signs used on the Metro extension towards the bottom of this page:
http://www.railsigns.co.uk/sect13page5/sect13page5.html
 

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Thanks for that information really appreciate it, thats exactly the kind of thing i was looking for. :) Now you see i need a reference :/
 

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There is also a delay in the change in signalling aspects when a train leaves one section and then enters another, so that the signal protecting the entrance to the section that the train has just exited remains at red for a little while after the train has passed into the next section.

I thought quite a lot of signals all over the network had overlaps like this?
 

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I thought quite a lot of signals all over the network had overlaps like this?
Quite probably. It seems to be quite pronounced on the Metro extension though, more so than I've witnessed anywhere else, although perhaps that's because there are more opportunities to watch it happening, with the Metros offering a "driver's eye view" to passengers.
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Thanks for that information really appreciate it, thats exactly the kind of thing i was looking for. :) Now you see i need a reference :/
There was an old copy of RAIL magazine that featured quite a detailed article on the signalling systems on the Metro extension, which is where I originally picked up most of my information from. I would estimate that it was published in around September 2002, but I'm afraid that beyond that I can't help you with your sources unfortunately, and I disposed of the magazine in question some time ago - Sorry!
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However, this topic has been discussed before on this forum. Perhaps the couple of links provided in these older threads might be of some use?
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=58752
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=20283
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This Railway Gazette article also looks to contain some information:
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/single-view/view/tyne-wear-metro-shares-tracks-to-sunderland.html
 
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Haven't been on in a while due to work, so apologies to YorkshireBear (did see your PM).

As sprinterguy says, the control of the Metro changes at Pelaw Junction, where the the radio crosses over to Tyneside IECC from South Gosforth. From then on it is Network Rail's responsibility, and it is NR who control the signalling from Pelaw Junction to South Hylton. The train running number changes from the standard 3 code to (eg 102) and is replaced by the NR headcode, changing to 2I02, or Two India Zero Two.

The Sunderland Extension also had to have the specific Metro safety features added, such as the Indusi train stop magnets which are only affect Metro operation. There are quite a few magnets at Sunderland station which is why the Metros run very slowly through to get to the platforms. This feature isn't used by any other train that passes through such as Northern or Grand Central.

There are also some different working practices which are detailed in the Rule Book but not made available to the public.
 

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Haven't been on in a while due to work, so apologies to YorkshireBear (did see your PM).

As sprinterguy says, the control of the Metro changes at Pelaw Junction, where the the radio crosses over to Tyneside IECC from South Gosforth. From then on it is Network Rail's responsibility, and it is NR who control the signalling from Pelaw Junction to South Hylton. The train running number changes from the standard 3 code to (eg 102) and is replaced by the NR headcode, changing to 2I02, or Two India Zero Two.

The Sunderland Extension also had to have the specific Metro safety features added, such as the Indusi train stop magnets which are only affect Metro operation. There are quite a few magnets at Sunderland station which is why the Metros run very slowly through to get to the platforms. This feature isn't used by any other train that passes through such as Northern or Grand Central.

There are also some different working practices which are detailed in the Rule Book but not made available to the public.

Okay so none of these features are general regulations for light rail/heavy rail share. And are specific to this line? Obviously that makes it more difficult for me to pick up practises and reference them into my work. I wasn't sure if general regulations appeared anywhere as with the Tram-Train trial coming up i didn't know what the regs would be for that either. (i want to just build my airport link as heavy rail but they won't let me, may just have to mention adaptations would be required.)
 

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A lot of this would depend on the signalling system you would use.

If you can get away with Line of Sight on the branch, you will save yourself a lot of issues.
 

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One thing to have a look for is what the city of Karlsruhe in Germany did when they undertook the first section of line to be shared by the mainline services and local trams. I've read a good few journals which showed what was needed in both terms of signalling and safety arrangements for the new set-up (would point you in the right direction but can't access the files at the minute).
 
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