The omission of the Northern City Line stations being a classic example. With Hackney and Islington being far more vibrant than they used to be, I'm sure the likes of Essex Road would get used more if better publicised to leisure travellers
And how much of the non-core part of the Lizzie would you leave on the map, and if it was different to Thameslink, why?
Which brings us back to the question, "what and who is the map for?"
If visitors to London would like to be represented in TfL's operations, they are free to vote for a national government who are willing to contribute some of the visitors' tax to TfL's budget.
The direct subsidy ended. How much are the indirect subsidies, and which of them are assigned to non-rail areas of TfL?
I don't think it's a joke, - it just seems that @rebmcr doesn't recognise that visitors to London are a major source of income to London (and as such to the UK). The Mayor spends a lot of his media access on promoting the capital - after all it is the UK's premier tourist location, and much of it's finance comes from those visitors. Only somebody who can't see that would even dream of making life more difficult for the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Over £1bn per year in 2019, excluding capital investment. Obviously much, much more since then
Precisely! There must be somebody in TfL's publicity department who has a pet hate for any rail operations in london that trespass on TfL's patch. Given some of the comments here, maybe they post on this forum.
Although there is currently not an OSI - this is however due to be implemented in the next fares round in June.
Because it is a National Rail line. All line Rovers are valid on it amongst other things.
Google Maps has numerous errors all over London’s transport, there doesn’t seem to be a way of getting them corrected.
Goole is an internatioal web platform comopany. It is unreasonable to expect every one of their map annotations to meet the precision required to satify the wishes of every special interst group in the country. That is particularly true of a new metro railway where even the enthusiasts and the railway operators seem to have disagreements on what logo should be there.
Should maybe, but we're not talking about anything life changing here. Were this not a railway centric forum, I doubt there would be so much debate on whether google maps assigned BR (sic) or TfL implied ownership on a geographical map. Most passengers get tickets and travel, and don't really care who is running the station, track or trains as long as they run.
You are right and to the point where the majority of users of Google Maps have not noticed the symbols at all so are way off caring which company it is. Even a symbol indicating the station was closed would get overlooked by some. It could have been the case that Google Maps had just ONE symbol for a station worldwide.
There's been an OSI between Paddington and Lancaster Gate for many years now. It's not highlighted as you wouldn't want a novice visitor to think it's straightforward like crossing the road at Hammersmith (and Lancaster Gate with its lifts couldn't cope with large numbers of extra users), but it's available for anyone who prefers it. As noted, journey planners will give detailed walking instructions if it's genuinely better than the alternatives. Its usefulness for many journeys will decrease once Crossrail runs through Paddington without needing a change of train.
The new OSI is between Paddington Elizabeth Line ticket hall and Lancaster Gate.
Or you could have the tube map (if you're going to call it that) showing just Zones 1 to 6, which would go as far as West Drayton on the Elizabeth Line (with an arrow "towards Slough and Reading"). But then you would exclude the outer ends of the Metropolitan line. The Harry Beck map of 1931, with its classic simplicity based on a circuit diagram, has perhaps reached its limit but it would be a shame to discard it altogether. I've never lived in London but have never had difficulty navigating by train (except that someone told me about the proximity of Paddington and Lancaster Gate, which is not obvious from the map).
No it isn't, it's a town in the East Riding.
Personally I'd make the tube map go out to zone 3 (basically include the circular bit of the overground overground circle) to make it nice and clear, and then improve the London connections map to show everything outside that
Actually I heard it had been implemented at the beginning of May so it was there for the opening.
shouldn't it have a purple roundel, same way the overground has an orange and the DLR has a turquoise roundel?
yeah it's not difficult I mean city mapper and apple maps both nailed it first time
