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Bob Price

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I guess clearing out Landore. There is a big speculation thread on where these will end up, but the movements so far are not yielding any clues.
 
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How many others are being stored in Landore at the moment ?
 
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Yes, they did, but only in part, also replaced the Met Camm 101s as well from the Marple, Rose Hill and Hope Valley lines, including Chester to Manchester Piccadilly via Plumley, and North Wales Blaenau Branch and some Holyhead services, plus Saturday Manchester to Blackpool services to enable 175, mainly North Wales and Blackpool and Cascade 142 150 156 Onto Marple, Hope Valley lines and Manchester to Chester via Plumley.
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They also replaced class 37 and coaches on Holyhead-Crewe-Birmingham services.
 
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Bob Price said:
I guess clearing out Landore. There is a big speculation thread on where these will end up, but the movements so far are not yielding any clues.
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I suppose if there's a unit at holyhead that isn't working correctly positioning 007 could be to move it.
 
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MP393 said:
Currently a block to traffic from Chester on the coast due to a faulty level crossing with barriers stuck open
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Ahh. Okay

Thanks for the information.

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175105 went to Holyhead earlier.

175007 heading to Crewe Gresty Road later.
 
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2 x 3 cars moving at Chester but couldn’t see the unit numbers.
 

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Just seen a video of half of 158834 bei g taken somewhere on a flatbed truck, any idea what happened to it
 
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Are all of the 175s officially off lease from TfW now or are some still on lease in case needed as a contingency?
 
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The_Train said:
Are all of the 175s officially off lease from TfW now or are some still on lease in case needed as a contingency?
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Not sure where we stand on the lease but for operational purposes they are officially withdrawn.
 
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Just seen a 2 car 175 pass near Neath (heading Cardiff direction). Wasnt close enough to see the number but according to RTT its going from Landore to Holyhead

Realtime Trains | 3Z94 0845 Landore T.M.D. to Holyhead Car. M.D. | 06/11/2023

Real-time train running information for 3Z94 0845 departure from Landore T.M.D. to Holyhead Car. M.D. on 06/11/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk
 
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Jez said:
Just seen a 2 car 175 pass near Neath (heading Cardiff direction). Wasnt close enough to see the number but according to RTT its going from Landore to Holyhead

Realtime Trains | 3Z94 0845 Landore T.M.D. to Holyhead Car. M.D. | 06/11/2023

Real-time train running information for 3Z94 0845 departure from Landore T.M.D. to Holyhead Car. M.D. on 06/11/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk
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No allocation in TOPS
 
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175009 and another 175/0 parked up at Chester depot yesterday. Visibly from the Greenway bridge, tail lights on.

Assume these have a future given the amount of hand back tests and checks. What price an export to some far flung country given the HST Mexico project? Ready made fleet of 27 units far from life expired must be attractive somewhere......
 
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The Prisoner said:
175009 and another 175/0 parked up at Chester depot yesterday. Visibly from the Greenway bridge, tail lights on.

Assume these have a future given the amount of hand back tests and checks. What price an export to some far flung country given the HST Mexico project? Ready made fleet of 27 units far from life expired must be attractive somewhere......
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I would have thought that there's enough demand here that international is pointless, scotrail and gwr must be looking at replacing there remaining 15x/16x sometime soon, the smaller doors couldn't be too much of an issue on the less used lines
 
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Well now someone says Scotrail thats got me thinking, were the 175s built the same place as the 334s if yes is there any running gear that would be common spares
 
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As I've posted in the speculative thread regarding the future of the 175s, it seems as if there is currently no future home planned for the 175s as Angel have listed the full fleet as available for lease or disposal.
 
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As I've posted in the speculative thread regarding the future of the 175s, it seems as if there is currently no future home planned for the 175s as Angel have listed the full fleet as available for lease or disposal.
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Then why were we told that TfW weren't able to extend the lease on the 175s to cover for mark 4 issues etc. because a new TOC had already agreed to lease them and was waiting to take them on?
 
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Jez said:
Just seen a 2 car 175 pass near Neath (heading Cardiff direction). Wasnt close enough to see the number but according to RTT its going from Landore to Holyhead

Realtime Trains | 3Z94 0845 Landore T.M.D. to Holyhead Car. M.D. | 06/11/2023

Real-time train running information for 3Z94 0845 departure from Landore T.M.D. to Holyhead Car. M.D. on 06/11/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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175006, but is now stabled at Chester instead joining the others
 
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Rhydgaled said:
Then why were we told that TfW weren't able to extend the lease on the 175s to cover for mark 4 issues etc. because a new TOC had already agreed to lease them and was waiting to take them on?
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I don't think it was practical for TFW to keep them much longer. Only a few were in service each day by the end of their time with TFW and the issues they had with availability/maintenance in the last few months it probably wasn't worth keeping them longer even if they have no home to go to at the moment.
 
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So based on the Angel Trains website, all 175s are technically still on lease to TfW, or am I reading that incorrectly?
 
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Rhydgaled said:
Then why were we told that TfW weren't able to extend the lease on the 175s to cover for mark 4 issues etc. because a new TOC had already agreed to lease them and was waiting to take them on?
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Who is 'we' and who did the telling? All I've seen is rumours and guessing, nothing official.
 
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