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Might be indulging in a little bit of optimism but could coryton be in preparation for Coryton extension and tram usage? And Ystrad be for a future reopening (to passengers) of a line to Nelson and Trelewis using trams? Hence no need for Rhymney?

Back to reality it could be gradients to Rhymney being a blocker but I thought tram trains could handle steep gradients?
 
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Very disappointing that these tram-trains are not going to enter service until November 2024 at the earliest.
 
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As someone who has had to put up with tiny, cold leaky single 150s in Cardiff ever since I moved here for uni, it’s hard hitting to know the 398s will now be in use after I’ve graduated and no doubt cleared off…

Almost every day the Valleys have closed at six and I’ve had to walk or get a bus instead. That’s fair enough when you know you’re getting a big upgrade as a result, but for me personally that means that’s all been to no avail!
 
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Envoy said:
Very disappointing that these tram-trains are not going to enter service until November 2024 at the earliest.
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yes disappointing but at least they have been honest and given a realistic date.

TT-ONR-NRN said:
As someone who has had to put up with tiny, cold leaky single 150s in Cardiff ever since I moved here for uni, it’s hard hitting to know the 398s will now be in use after I’ve graduated and no doubt cleared off…
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You'll just have to come back to visit Cardiff and ride some! ;)
 
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Jez said:
yes disappointing but at least they have been honest and given a realistic date.


You'll just have to come back to visit Cardiff and ride some! ;)
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Or stay in Cardiff, get a job with TfW or TfW Rail and show them how the railways should be run?
 
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TT-ONR-NRN said:
As someone who has had to put up with tiny, cold leaky single 150s in Cardiff ever since I moved here for uni, it’s hard hitting to know the 398s will now be in use after I’ve graduated and no doubt cleared off…

Almost every day the Valleys have closed at six and I’ve had to walk or get a bus instead. That’s fair enough when you know you’re getting a big upgrade as a result, but for me personally that means that’s all been to no avail!
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Flunk your finals or go for a postgraduate course !.

More realistically settle in Cardiff - its better than London (he says to the person who is only recently back from a thorough visit to Australia).
 
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Peter Sarf said:
Flunk your finals or go for a postgraduate course !.

More realistically settle in Cardiff - its better than London (he says to the person who is only recently back from a thorough visit to Australia).
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and would far rather do a masters there than in Wales ;)

Anyway, my personal snivelling aside, let’s hope the 756s can provide some temporary relief from the 150s.
 
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The whole project has slipped as has everything thanks to the pandemic. I am not surprised the introduction has been pushed back. With regards to the Cheltenham Maesteg and Ebbw Vale services there will be a number of 153's, 175's and 150's displaced by the 197's being introduced so I wouldn't be surprised to see a Mish mash of those on there, 756's on the Pontypridd valleys and 231's on the Rhymney. Then next year, when all is ready, get the 398's in
 
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Bob Price said:
The whole project has slipped as has everything thanks to the pandemic. I am not surprised the introduction has been pushed back. With regards to the Cheltenham Maesteg and Ebbw Vale services there will be a number of 153's, 175's and 150's displaced by the 197's being introduced so I wouldn't be surprised to see a Mish mash of those on there, 756's on the Pontypridd valleys and 231's on the Rhymney. Then next year, when all is ready, get the 398's in
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You must surely be aware by now that the 175s can't have their lease extended? They'll be gone by November.
756 on Pontypridd routes, cascading 150s to Caerphilly routes, cascading 231s to former 170/2 routes is what I read somewhere.
 
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TT-ONR-NRN said:
As someone who has had to put up with tiny, cold leaky single 150s in Cardiff ever since I moved here for uni, it’s hard hitting to know the 398s will now be in use after I’ve graduated and no doubt cleared off…
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Story of my life -
D stock entered service just after my student commuting days to South Kensington ended CO/CP stock and R stock very much on its last legs.
Thameslink arrived shortly after I moved away from Herne Hill. 2SAPs were my daily commute.
Channel Tunnel opened a few months after my partner's posting to Brussels ended.
Direct services to Lincoln restored six months after the last family member who lived there passed away
Class 701s were supposed to have entered service before I retired - had 455s to the bitter end.
 
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norbitonflyer said:
Story of my life -
D stock entered service just after my student commuting days to South Kensington ended CO/CP stock and R stock very much on its last legs.
Thameslink arrived shortly after I moved away from Herne Hill. 2SAPs were my daily commute.
Channel Tunnel opened a few months after my partner's posting to Brussels ended.
Direct services to Lincoln restored six months after the last family member who lived there passed away
Class 701s were supposed to have entered service before I retired - had 455s to the bitter end.
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Warn me if you move to Croydon o_O.
 
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20142 and 20189 on route to Pontypridd via Pengam Sidings tonight with 398004 from Old Dalby as 6Q21 then 6Q22

Realtime Trains | 6Q22 2345 Pengam Reception Sdgs Gbrf to Pontypridd | 05/01/2024

Real-time train running information for 6Q22 2345 departure from Pengam Reception Sdgs Gbrf to Pontypridd on 05/01/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Have seen a post on social media saying 398014 & 398015 are at Taf Wells, anyone know when they arrived?
 
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Have seen a post on social media saying 398014 & 398015 are at Taf Wells, anyone know when they arrived?
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That was my post and I only saw them last Friday and I'd seen no posts on the usual channels to say they'd arrived. But doing some digging I think it was around the 14/15 December.

Slight change to this weeks move. 20142 and 20189 are on route to Old Dalby as we speak then to Radyr via Pengam Sidings tonight with an unknown 398. A 398 will then come from Taffs Well to Radyr to pick up the new 398 similar to the move to Ponty last week.
 
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Buzz68 said:
That was my post and I only saw them last Friday and I'd seen no posts on the usual channels to say they'd arrived. But doing some digging I think it was around the 14/15 December.

Slight change to this weeks move. 20142 and 20189 are on route to Old Dalby as we speak then to Radyr via Pengam Sidings tonight with an unknown 398. A 398 will then come from Taffs Well to Radyr to pick up the new 398 similar to the move to Ponty last week.
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No acess to the platforms at Radyr but can be watched from the footbridge
 
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Is anybody able to confirm whether 007 and then 010-015 have been out on test workings please?
 
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Buzz68 said:
That was my post and I only saw them last Friday and I'd seen no posts on the usual channels to say they'd arrived. But doing some digging I think it was around the 14/15 December.

Slight change to this weeks move. 20142 and 20189 are on route to Old Dalby as we speak then to Radyr via Pengam Sidings tonight with an unknown 398. A 398 will then come from Taffs Well to Radyr to pick up the new 398 similar to the move to Ponty last week.
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I believe this was meant to be delivery of 398005 if that helps, but now cancelled.

EDIT
6Q21 replaced by a late running 6Z21 back to Kings Norton !. So the move is off for now.
 
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