Thameslink collapse

[MrCub]

It appears the north section of TL has collapsed due to issues at West Hampstead

 

[tsr]

Landslip at Radlett as well as aforementioned loss of signalling at West Hampstead. Apparently TL trying to resource buses. Hmmm.

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[MrCub]

Commuting tomorrow will be 'fun' for those unfortunately to need to do so.

 

[ajb690]

Ouch - https://twitter.com/TLRailUK/status/746085309197225985

We are sending staff to trapped trains as a priority. ⚠️ Services between Bedford & Blackfriars have been suspended for the rest of the day due to a complete loss of signalling

 

[bengley]

All trains between Bedford and Farringdon are at a stand - I suspect that is a lot of trains trapped.

 

[MrCub]

It's a DISASTER. How on Earth do people get home?

 

[backontrack]

Shame - I thought it was the company.

 

[All Line Rover]

Well it's certainly been a lovely evening on the railway today. I can't remember the last time so much disruption was listed on NRE - particularly for June.

 

[bengley]

It's a DISASTER. How on Earth do people get home?

With extreme difficulty

 

[Kite159]

Last couple Nottingham to St Pancras services were cancelled, I suspect local taxis will be in demand tonight.

Tomorrow morning will be interesting with stock out of place

 

[Rich McLean]

Last couple Nottingham to St Pancras services were cancelled, I suspect local taxis will be in demand tonight.

Tomorrow morning will be interesting with stock out of place

That's if things get moving at all until around mid morning

 

[mirodo]

Commuting tomorrow will be 'fun' for those unfortunately to need to do so.

Rather happy now with my decision to take tomorrow off to stay up and watch the referendum coverage.

 

[tsr]

Looks like some signalling has been restored now. Unsure as to the extent of resolution at the moment. Some trains seem to be moving on my signalling map.

 

[ajb690]

Latest tweet from Thameslink suggests signalling restored.

 

[MrCub]

Is there an obligation, in the event of a service collapse, for a TOC to get you to your destination, or can they leave you 'stranded'?

 

[Antman]

It's a DISASTER. How on Earth do people get home?

By road transport arriving home sometime in the early hours looks like the best that they can hope for, this must be one of the worst days ever for rail disruption in the south east?

 

[howittpie]

Notice at least one St Pancras to Derby service was started at Kettering this evening. There was few at Loughborough awaiting the 21.24 to St Pancras unaware of the problems further south as the boards were showing delayed and the announcement being due to electrical supply problems so no clue to the problems further south.

 

[ainsworth74]

Is there an obligation, in the event of a service collapse, for a TOC to get you to your destination, or can they leave you 'stranded'?

Either get you home or provide overnight accommodation as per National Rail Conditions of Carriage.

 

[greaterwest]

By road transport arriving home sometime in the early hours looks like the best that they can hope for, this must be one of the worst days ever for rail disruption in the south east?

I'd imagine so, I haven't seen two code blacks declared at the same time (Victoria - Croydon and Waterloo - Surbiton) and I think the last bad incident was the displacement of the third rail at Clapham Junction a year or so ago which resulted in the shoes being ripped off several units, and many trains being de-trained.

 

[GadgetMan]

Ouch - https://twitter.com/TLRailUK/status/746085309197225985

We are sending staff to trapped trains as a priority. ⚠️ Services between Bedford & Blackfriars have been suspended for the rest of the day due to a complete loss of signalling

All the DOO lovers/TOCs keep trotting out the MOM (NR Mobile Ops Manager)/BTP/Father Xmas would all be at the location within 20-30mins after an incident. Glad to see they're all correct. :roll:

 

[Antman]

Reported on twitter that trains are now running again between Blackfriars and Bedford

 

[bb21]

I'd imagine so, I haven't seen two code blacks declared at the same time (Victoria - Croydon and Waterloo - Surbiton) and I think the last bad incident was the displacement of the third rail at Clapham Junction a year or so ago which resulted in the shoes being ripped off several units, and many trains being de-trained.

The last Code Black was the Vauxhall fire.

 

[greaterwest]

The last Code Black was the Vauxhall fire.

Indeed, but when was the last time two major London termini had a Code Black declared upon them on the same day?

 

[bengley]

Indeed, but when was the last time two major London termini had a Code Black declared upon them on the same day?

*Three

St Pancras is also code black this evening

 

[55003]

Sorry to go off topic , briefly, but what is a code black? The UK military colour code airfields as to their usability due to weather and a Black means closed, what other colours are used on the railway?
http://www.privatefly.com/ask-the-pilot/15-weather-colour-codes-for-aviation.html

 

[LowLevel]

It's a grading.

Green - Yellow - Red - Black - Blue

Green is minor delays
Yellow is moderate delays
Red is major delays
Black is effectively service suspension, job stopped
Blue is a serious incident generally involving the intervention of the emergency services with a train service following a collision or similar.

 

[greaterwest]

It's a grading.

Green - Yellow - Red - Black - Blue

Green is minor delays
Yellow is moderate delays
Red is major delays
Black is effectively service suspension, job stopped
Blue is a serious incident generally involving the intervention of the emergency services with a train service following a collision or similar.

What was the last Code Blue to be declared in recent years?

 

[LowLevel]

What was the last Code Blue to be declared in recent years?

I know one was declared when an EMT 222 collided with a boom at Mountsorrel sidings this year.

 

[tsr]

What was the last Code Blue to be declared in recent years?

I'm not sure my employer even has a Code Blue! Last time I looked at the classification of incidents, which wasn't too long ago, certain types of rail accident lead directly to a Code Black, but I'm pretty sure we don't do Blue at all. I don't decide what leads to a declaration of any given colour code, but I'm aware of the rough classification and I do work with them on a pretty much daily basis.

For us, from memory, our PIDD (Passenger Information During Disruption) colour codes are:
Green - no/slight delays but a known fault which may affect multiple trains (an example of disruption with "no delays" could be, for example, SSOs issued due to some trains not to call at a station due to equipment issues) - one or two isolated delays up to 15mins
Yellow - full closure of stations in certain categories, line problems leading to congestion and delay which can often be accommodated by normal service resilience - pattern of repeated delays up to 15mins
Red - line problem caused by station closure (eg. evacuation of a major interchange leading to crew changeover and passenger movement problems), partial mainline or full branch closure - delays in the region of 15-30mins
Black - full mainline route closure, derailment of higher speed services, loss of signalling at a critical location, phased shutdown/delayed start due to severe weather - multiple trains stranded/trapped - delays 30mins+

CSL2 (Customer Service Level 2) is usually declared at Red and beyond, invoking ticket acceptance per pre-set plans, highlighted website information and recorded announcements detailing journey options, and so on. In addition, for each type of line capacity issue, numbered plans are used to define the service which can reasonably be run, though in fact this is often quite vague because of train and crew displacement and so on.

 

[Alfie1014]

*Three

St Pancras is also code black this evening

Four, GE pretty much shut for much of day too, and not much better today with a limited service of only two main line trains per hour and do not travel advice until after 14:00 in place. TfL rail not much better limited to 2 tph too, plus there have been difficulties getting stock out of Ilford as the loss of signalling area covers Manor Park to Seven Kings.