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The Return of 442401
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trains2
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Ouch, I am not keen on that door:
Dunno when the pic was taken, but unless the livery has changed quite a bit, it doesn't look complete. Firstly the number isn't on there; the orange line on the darker blue band isn't on there, and the position of the sweep looks like it's been changed.
Dunno when the pic was taken, but unless the livery has changed quite a bit, it doesn't look complete. Firstly the number isn't on there; the orange line on the darker blue band isn't on there, and the position of the sweep looks like it's been changed.
cool ,You got that new camera!!joea1 said:Somebody said that it's now a permanent shunter :?
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It would be brilliant if they sent the next one down tomorrow. I have my new Sony DSC600 camera
Rich, it looks like Ilford to me
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Yeh , let us know when the next unit is going to Ilford
is it 442406 that will be next?
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47841 is confirmed to be hauling the train down back here.
It's at Clapham Junction at around 22:00.
It's at Clapham Junction at around 22:00.
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Tom
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Hmm that gen you had then was wrong wasnt it... 
Anyway move cancelled apparently!
Anyway move cancelled apparently!
trains2
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Julian G said:
trains2 said:
Officially cancelled. Was due to run:
47841 + SWT 2401 5X42 20+47 Ilford TMD - Bournemouth T+RSMD (02:10) >
Stratford 20:59,
Clap Jn 22:05/07
Byfleet Jn 22:22,
Bournemouth 01:22,
Poole 01:38-?? (r/r)
Bournemouth T+RSMD 02:10
great!!trains2 said:
Officially cancelled. Was due to run:
47841 + SWT 2401 5X42 20+47 Ilford TMD - Bournemouth T+RSMD (02:10) >
Stratford 20:59,
Clap Jn 22:05/07
Byfleet Jn 22:22,
Bournemouth 01:22,
Poole 01:38-?? (r/r)
Bournemouth T+RSMD 02:10
when's the next journey?
TheSlash
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I thought it was coming back Monday morning, dropping off 2401 and taking 2402, which is running round with a dodgy smell coming out of the traction motors, lets hope it lasts until monday... 
As for the door, I suppose it is because of this rule thing that doors have to be easily visable to people who have poor vision. The only people that can miss a big hole in the side of a train or lights around the buttons are blind people or people who wouldn't see the edge of a platform anyway! As for the stripe, Rich, I mentioned that elsewhere (after reading a magazine a couple of weeks agotrains2 said:
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Being ruled by minorities again :mad:Coxster said:As for the door, I suppose it is because of this rule thing that doors have to be easily visable to people who have poor vision. The only people that can miss a big hole in the side of a train or lights around the buttons are blind people or people who wouldn't see the edge of a platform anyway! As for the stripe, Rich, I mentioned that elsewhere (after reading a magazine a couple of weeks ago
AlexS
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Ruled by minorities? It's painting a bloody door so partially sighted people can see it more easily! Some of them have been surprisingly easy to miss before!
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They have a cheek don't they,next up wheelchairs will be allowed on trains and trains will have to have a disabled toilet.Richard Armstrong said:
Public transport should be made easy to use for everyone and if making a train door more easily seen then so be it,it's not hurting anyone.
My point was if people can't see a door on a train lit up by lights on the door buttons or actually being open leaving a big hole in the train, then what chance have they of reading safety notices or maybe seeing the edge of a platform etc?ChrisM said:They have a cheek don't they,next up wheelchairs will be allowed on trains and trains will have to have a disabled toilet.
Public transport should be made easy to use for everyone and if making a train door more easily seen then so be it,it's not hurting anyone.
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If painting a door yellow helps some people out then so be it,not everyone has perfect eyesight.
Last year an old man fell between a sprinter at Southampton thinking he was stepping onto a train through the door but fell between the coaches.
Last year an old man fell between a sprinter at Southampton thinking he was stepping onto a train through the door but fell between the coaches.
A change of door colour wouldn't help that bloke as it would look darker where the open door is to him anyway.ChrisM said:Last year an old man fell between a sprinter at Southampton thinking he was stepping onto a train through the door but fell between the coaches.
RJ
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Why don't they paint along the frame of the door?
coxster,
many visually impared people have assistance booked, but this is not the only reasons for painting the door yellow - easier identification of where the doors actually are for one (especially in an accident or at night), let alone the whole guide dogs being trained where to look etc.
A yellow door makes the identification process quicker, simplier, easier.
As a disabled user and accessability consultant, your comments give me a shocking alert to the reality of the amount of awareness there is towards the equal access issue.
If your comments were jokingly, i find them in poor taste.
And ChrisM, yes - we're the cheekiest of the bunch. Dag nag it we'll be using you all as huskies next!
many visually impared people have assistance booked, but this is not the only reasons for painting the door yellow - easier identification of where the doors actually are for one (especially in an accident or at night), let alone the whole guide dogs being trained where to look etc.
A yellow door makes the identification process quicker, simplier, easier.
As a disabled user and accessability consultant, your comments give me a shocking alert to the reality of the amount of awareness there is towards the equal access issue.
If your comments were jokingly, i find them in poor taste.
And ChrisM, yes - we're the cheekiest of the bunch. Dag nag it we'll be using you all as huskies next!
Hmm, some of those points I hadn't thought of, especially the accidents and guide dog situations. My comments weren't meant to be in bad taste.
It doesn't stop the door looking ugly though (compared to old 442 style, in an enthusiast's view)
It doesn't stop the door looking ugly though (compared to old 442 style, in an enthusiast's view)
AlexS
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That's mainly SWTs choice of their livery arrangements - it looks fine on mid body doored Desiros, but doesn't suit 442s so much. Virgin managed to pull it off fairly well - their freaky reflective bee stripes actually go with the livery OK, Central Trains' livery has always been one of the better ones, and still looks 'k with yellow doors, GNER choosing bright orange is an 'I dunno' option, and so on.
It's something you have to get used to, and as it's merely cosmetic and absolutely nothing to do with the running of the train, or the comfort factor inside, you would think people would have no complaints about it!
It's something you have to get used to, and as it's merely cosmetic and absolutely nothing to do with the running of the train, or the comfort factor inside, you would think people would have no complaints about it!
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47150 is in a state (body covered in graffiti). Anyone know if this happened recently and where it was stabled when it happened?
RJ
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It ruddy well did run today and I'm mighty p*ssed because I was a Stratford for the best part of 3 hrs for it to pass 30 mins later. Grr! Last update 1345 Camden.
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