TPE Class 397 ('Nova 2') construction and updates

felixthebadger · 16 Jan 2019

SP Man said:
She's alive.

I like that, looks more attractive than a Hitachi IET.

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samuelmorris · 16 Jan 2019

felixthebadger said:
I like that, looks more attractive than a Hitachi IET.

Strong contender for best looking new unit in the UK that is. A decent livery, appropriately applied, and a clean front end.

SP Man · 24 Jan 2019

If things go anywhere near a plan I'm taking the class 397 from Crewe to Carlisle and back next Thursday and Friday. Booked off Crewe around 0645ish. We should also have the Mk5a Nova 3 set out to Carlisle so depending on whether that's a MID and back or a Blechley we will either pass somewhere on WCML or be at Carlisle together.

Erniescooper · 30 Jan 2019

Network Rail have pulled the plug on tomorrow’s run but I’m not sure about Friday as well

59CosG95 · 30 Jan 2019

A post on the Facebook page for Allely's Heavy Haulage shows a low-loader moving more newly arrived ~~Mk5a coaches~~ 397 vehicles (still in shrink wrap). Not sure on origin or destination.

Erniescooper · 30 Jan 2019

59CosG95 said:
A post on the Facebook page for Allely's Heavy Haulage shows a low-loader moving more newly arrived Mk5a coaches (still in shrink wrap). Not sure on origin or destination.

I think that is 397001 which is due at MID on Tuesday but I’ve no idea of transport details

driver9000 · 30 Jan 2019

Erniescooper said:
I think that is 397001 which is due at MID on Tuesday but I’ve no idea of transport details

I thought it was a fresh one from Spain possibly 397004?

Erniescooper · 30 Jan 2019

driver9000 said:
I thought it was a fresh one from Spain possibly 397004?

The last plan I saw said 001 with 004 at Velim but plans can change quite quickly

SP Man · 30 Jan 2019

That's nice to be told via a forum - no one told Freightliner yet. I'd better ring my Driver and the other stuff is arranged and stand them down.

Jozhua · 30 Jan 2019

SP Man said:
That's nice to be told via a forum - no one told Freightliner yet. I'd better ring my Driver and the other stuff is arranged and stand them down.

Now THAT's what you call organisation!

Chuggington21 · 31 Jan 2019

Did it run?

Erniescooper · 31 Jan 2019

Chuggington21 said:
Did it run?

It didn’t run but I was getting ahead of myself when I posted as Network Rail hadn’t officially pulled the plug.
On a different note 397001 has made its way to Holyhead by lorry from Immingham and will be making its way from Holyhead to Manchester on Tuesday

mikemcniven · 31 Jan 2019

Erniescooper said:
It didn’t run but I was getting ahead of myself when I posted as Network Rail hadn’t officially pulled the plug.
On a different note 397001 has made its way to Holyhead by lorry from Immingham and will be making its way from Holyhead to Manchester on Tuesday

is it been moved by road or rail from Holyhead to MID?

Erniescooper · 31 Jan 2019

I think they are doing the same thing they did with Mk5a set 1 so it looks like rail

mikemcniven · 31 Jan 2019

Erniescooper said:
I think they are doing the same thing they did with Mk5a set 1 so it looks like rail

Awesome, will keep my eye out for that coming up then and try and get video and photos as usual.

LNW-GW Joint · 31 Jan 2019

Erniescooper said:
It didn’t run but I was getting ahead of myself when I posted as Network Rail hadn’t officially pulled the plug.
On a different note 397001 has made its way to Holyhead by lorry from Immingham and will be making its way from Holyhead to Manchester on Tuesday

Only the railway would organise an Immingham-Manchester transfer via Holyhead (no doubt travelling past Manchester on the way)!
Though you've only to track your parcel deliveries to discover what indirections there are in the road/air logistics system.

AndrewE · 31 Jan 2019

LNW-GW Joint said:
Only the railway would organise an Immingham-Manchester transfer via Holyhead (no doubt travelling past Manchester on the way)!
Though you've only to track your parcel deliveries to discover what indirections there are in the road/air logistics system.

Correction: Only the fragmented railway we have today would organise an Immingham-Manchester transfer via Holyhead! There must be siding space at Immingham where trains could be marshalled and checked over before setting off by rail.

LNW-GW Joint · 31 Jan 2019

AndrewE said:
Correction: Only the fragmented railway we have today would organise an Immingham-Manchester transfer via Holyhead! There must be siding space at Immingham where trains could be marshalled and checked over before setting off by rail.

And new CAF trains have previously been delivered by road to Edge Hill.

AndrewE · 31 Jan 2019

LNW-GW Joint said:
And new CAF trains have previously been delivered by road to Edge Hill.

... on the same fragmented railway - or was it 20 years ago?

LNW-GW Joint · 31 Jan 2019

AndrewE said:
... on the same fragmented railway - or was it 20 years ago?

It was in the last few months (Northern's 195/331s), and there are plenty more to come that way.

AndrewE · 31 Jan 2019

LNW-GW Joint said:
It was in the last few months (Northern's 195/331s), and there are plenty more to come that way.

Wouldn't you think they could come into Bootle docks? They could almost be trip-worked as loose-coupled freight by a class 08 from there...

73001 · 31 Jan 2019

AndrewE said:
Wouldn't you think they could come into Bootle docks? They could almost be trip-worked as loose-coupled freight by a class 08 from there...

Whilst it would make sense in one way, financially it can't be a winner... The cost of sailing the ship right round half of the UK would need to be taken into account. Then the actual time taken might mean that the shipping line might need an additional ship to meet commitments etc. Everything will have been worked out to the nearest pound and it's just the cheapest.

EE Andy b1 · 1 Feb 2019

Here is the TPE Class 397 at the closed Alcan Aluminium plant at Holyhead today. Looks like it's been mated up ready for haulage by rail.

keith1879 · 1 Feb 2019

73001 said:
Whilst it would make sense in one way, financially it can't be a winner... The cost of sailing the ship right round half of the UK would need to be taken into account. Then the actual time taken might mean that the shipping line might need an additional ship to meet commitments etc. Everything will have been worked out to the nearest pound and it's just the cheapest.

I would agree that the cost of docking in a particular port presumably means that it has to be Immingham ......but that still leaves the question of why the vehicles are then hauled by road all the way to Holyhead only to be brought back to England by rail. On the face of it this doesn't make any sense .... but perhaps the cost of road haulage over the pennines is massively below the cost of rail haulage over what are congested routes? I really don't know.

The Northern Star · 1 Feb 2019

397001 is being dragged by rail on Tuesday to MID by Rail Operations Group

Times to be posted when they're received...

The ETA currently for arriving at the MID is 1640

The Northern Star · 2 Feb 2019

Times are in for 397001s move to Longsight. 5Q28: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K56208/2019/02/05/advanced

The Northern Star · 2 Feb 2019

397003s first day time test run times

3Z97:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97540/2019/02/04/advanced

TBSchenker · 4 Feb 2019

Departure time for 3Z97 and as of yet it hasn't been activated in RTT.

driver9000 · 4 Feb 2019

TBSchenker said:
Departure time for 3Z97 and as of yet it hasn't been activated in RTT.

Tuesday or maybe Wednesday now.

TBSchenker · 4 Feb 2019

Cheers. Charged my camera up especially!

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