Trade Unions - Standing up for their members or irrelevant in modern society?

[fowler9]

The stress is certainly there, and probably far more than you can ever imagine. It's caused by the earnest desire to do the job to the very best of their ability, knowing that many hundreds/thousands of other staff are largely dependent on them. You don't usually get to such a senior role in a large organisation without having exhibited significant skills over a lengthy period of time.

I get what you are saying but I still don't understand the connection between messing up big time and getting a massive pay off. "It is a stressfull job and you failed and now the company is loosing money, here is X million pounds. Try to survive while the rest of the staff are getting laid off for naff all".
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I can tell the answer to 1) by your answers to 2) and 3).

Ha ha, you saw right though me. But as I said paying people huge amounts for failing when the staff loosing their jobs as a result of your failures get naff all does seem somewhat obscene. Lower down the slippery slope there are people being let go with no pay off if they don't perform and they are loosing any house they had, not just one for millions of pounds they cant afford any more in exchange for one worth less millions.
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From a very slightly different angle do you believe the threat of loosing a bit of what you had is as stressfull as loosing everything you have? Also do you believe that the people at the very top really understand the existence of the people at the very bottom? I have friends who when they tell me they are skint they mean they only have £500 for a week (Plus savings), when I tell them I am skint I mean I am skint, I have nothing.

 

[AlterEgo]

I have friends who when they tell me they are skint they mean they only have £500 for a week (Plus savings), when I tell them I am skint I mean I am skint, I have nothing.

I have also been in the same position. When I was in that position, the problem was entirely mine and one day I simply decided I wasn't going to accept it any more.

 

[fowler9]

I have also been in the same position. When I was in that position, the problem was entirely mine and one day I simply decided I wasn't going to accept it any more.

Ah good on you. I am trying to get out of my situation also. How to do it is more complicated. Ha ha.

 

[KTHV]

Interesting expose of the RMT and it's bedfellows during the Referendum:

http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/rmts-dodgy-bedfellows_5.html

This was when they got into bed with a seriously dodgy individual, as recently released details from the Electoral Commission (EC) show. The RMT donated considerable sums - at least £30,000 - to an organisation called Trade Unionists Against The European Union.

The EC lists just one further donor to Trade Unionists Against the EU, and that is an organisation called Better For The Country Limited. This company has also made donations to UKIP and Grassroots Out.

As well as Leave.EU stalwarts Elizabeth Bilney and Andy Wigmore, we see that the major shareholder in Better For The Country, with a holding of over 75%, is a man called Arron Fraser Andrew Banks. The same Arron Banks that is pals with Nigel “Thirsty” Farage. The same Arron Banks whose name came up in the Panama Papers data leak.

 

[highdyke]

The RMT and ASLEF are hugely tied up with Brexit and Corbyn...Hence why Mr Corbyn is very luke warm on the idea of the EU. They see it as a big club of global business, an idea not without merit. ASLEF are not very keen on the European train driving licence I believe..

http://www.cuba-solidarity.org.uk/n...hn-mcdonnell-attend-rmt-garden-party-for-cuba

 

[AnonymousUser1]

The RMT and ASLEF are hugely tied up with Brexit and Corbyn...Hence why Mr Corbyn is very luke warm on the idea of the EU. They see it as a big club of global business, an idea not without merit. ASLEF are not very keen on the European train driving licence I believe..

http://www.cuba-solidarity.org.uk/n...hn-mcdonnell-attend-rmt-garden-party-for-cuba

of course not becasue if there was an european driving licence foreign drivers could come straight across and be placed in a link after traction and route training same as an exisiting UK driver changing companies ...

there may also be a development of commercially operated riving schools for the licence ...

all much more conducive to Union membership if peopel start as cleaner,s then oilers, then greasers, then fireman ...

 

[Goldfish62]

The RMT and ASLEF are hugely tied up with Brexit and Corbyn...Hence why Mr Corbyn is very luke warm on the idea of the EU. They see it as a big club of global business, an idea not without merit. ASLEF are not very keen on the European train driving licence I believe..

http://www.cuba-solidarity.org.uk/n...hn-mcdonnell-attend-rmt-garden-party-for-cuba

Although the irony is that Brexit has heralded in a government somewhat further to the right and even more ideologically opposed to unions than Cameron's lot. There may have been a remote possibility of some sort of settlement with the Southern dispute by this stage under the previous regime, but I can't see any possibility whatsoever under this lot. They will just sit it out.

 

[Robertj21a]

Although the irony is that Brexit has heralded in a government somewhat further to the right and even more ideologically opposed to unions than Cameron's lot. There may have been a remote possibility of some sort of settlement with the Southern dispute by this stage under the previous regime, but I can't see any possibility whatsoever under this lot. They will just sit it out.

Quite agree, there are a lot of similarities to the miners trying to take on Maggie Thatcher.