Train collision in Poland

[Legzr1]

Not that there's ever a 'small' crash involving head-on collisions but this seems particularly bad


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...rash-szczekociny_n_1319225.html?ncid=webmail1


Thoughts to the family and friends of those that have passed away.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The report mentions "engineering works" in a brief sentance at the foot of the report. It must have been very traumatic having occured at night. My deepest sympathy to all concerned.

 

[F Great Eastern]

Whilst it is reported that one train was on the wrong side of the track, I guess the investigation needs to find out how and why that happened,

For instance was there an issue with a signal which made a train proceed when that shouldn't have been the case, was there a fault with the points or something like this. Particularly when there was engineering work I'd be very weary of anyone claiming it was as cut and dried.

Deepest sympathies to everyone.

 

[WatcherZero]

One track was closed for engineering work and somehow the two expresses were diverted onto the same track resulting in head on collision. Death toll is upto 16 and the three mostly badly damaged coachs havent been properly searched yet.

 

[Schnellzug]

probably not bidirectionally signalled, so one was authorised to run wrong line, but probably a breakdown in comunications, I bet.

 

[gordonthemoron]

oh dear, I was on that line a fortnight or so ago

 

[michael769]

Very sad.

Some HQ pics from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17251105

 

[Metroland]

Looks like the signaller has been charged in connection with the accident.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17255905

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...d-over-Polish-train-crash-that-killed-16.html

 

[gordonthemoron]

just goes to show how dodgy older coaching stock is, one of the damaged coaches was quite considerable bent in the middle

 

[WestCoast]

just goes to show how dodgy older coaching stock is, one of the damaged coaches was quite considerable bent in the middle

What sort of coaching stock (age/type wise) is involved here? I've not really covered Poland by rail.

 

[gordonthemoron]

the TLK and Regio coaches look like they're from the 70's or possibly earlier. The InterCity/Express services have slightly more modern sets and there are some brand new trains around Warsaw

 

[Schnellzug]

I think they're probably the standard East German built stock used all over the former Eastern Bloc; on the regional train (the green/cream one) at least. The other one looks like an InterCity, which may have newer stock, but probably still East German built. Anyway, given that the risk of being in a Railway Accident pretty much anywhere in the world is so infinitesimally small, I think I'd still prefer Old Trains for comfort and being able to open a window, than being crammed into safe New Trains.

 

[gordonthemoron]

I wouldn't call any Polish trains comfortable at all

 

[Drsatan]

I wouldn't call any Polish trains comfortable at all

The EIC coaches are (which I think were built in the early 1990s), as are the TLK coaches (although TLK coaches can pop up on EIC services and vice-versa), although the EN57 EMUs used everywhere in Poland, especially the ones with plastic seats, aren't at all comfortable.

 

[gordonthemoron]

The Express ones and the EC ones are reasonable, the 8 seat TLK compartments are not at all comfortable, they're no different from the Regio ones