Transdev Blazefield

[RustySpoons]

More summer buses for Coastliner this summer... but only to Scarborough.

summer is here!



I'm always surprised Whitby isn't better served.

Unrelated, but Transdev seem to have adopted a lowercase approach to their news headlines on their website. Obviously it's intentional, but to me it just comes across as a poor use of writing mechanics...

Just to add, these extra services are being run out of Idle depot, with drivers from Keighley and Harrogate.

 

[SCH117X]

Unrelated, but Transdev seem to have adopted a lowercase approach to their news headlines on their website. Obviously it's intentional, but to me it just comes across as a poor use of writing mechanics...

Less shouty

 

[Seehof]

Is there any news even if just a date of an announcement regarding the tendering of the York local routes currently with Transdev? They seem to have a full complement of staff and their services are now increasingly reliable. There definitely seem to be more passengers on the buses from my observation and use of the buses.

 

[asw22]

Extremely disappointed with the driver on this evening's 662 who failed to pick me and two other passengers up.

 

[SCH117X]

Is there any news even if just a date of an announcement regarding the tendering of the York local routes currently with Transdev? They seem to have a full complement of staff and their services are now increasingly reliable. There definitely seem to be more passengers on the buses from my observation and use of the buses.

Theres a comment on the West Yorkshire Information Service fleetlist accessible at www.wyis.org.uk that

from September the Coastliner service is to be enhanced to a 20 minute headway between Leeds and York using
single deckers

which would probably imply some of the York services are going elsewhere.

 

[northern506]

According to this document, Transdev have lost the contract for the Rossendale Local Services to Vision bus from 28th October.

They will retain the 7, and the contract for the 8 has not been awarded. I am not sure if this is because someone is taking it on commercially or not.

https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/media/954392/january-2024-to-december-2024.pdf

 

[markymark2000]

https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/media/954392/january-2024-to-december-2024.pdf

Wow, not wanting to take this too far off topic but 8 tenders received. That seems like a lot.

 

[dodecahedron67]

Theres a comment on the West Yorkshire Information Service fleetlist accessible at www.wyis.org.uk that

which would probably imply some of the York services are going elsewhere.

Believe this is using some displaced B7s as the York E200MMC or remaining versa singles will offer nowhere near enough capacity

 

[Andyh82]

Wow, not wanting to take this too far off topic but 8 tenders received. That seems like a lot.

I wonder if that is small Greater Manchester operators trying to win some work after losing most/all of it with the roll out of the Bee Network, which of course includes the winners Vision Bus

Rawtenstall being not a million miles away from the GM border

 

[Ken H]

How did Transdev manage the X98 & X99 during the troubles and their aftermath in Hareholls. did they run up Roundhay rd non stop or divert? What divert route was used? York Rd and Ring Rd? Chapletown Rd/Scott Hall Rd and ring rd. Or even through Shadwell?

 

[Deerfold]

I wonder if that is small Greater Manchester operators trying to win some work after losing most/all of it with the roll out of the Bee Network, which of course includes the winners Vision Bus

Rawtenstall being not a million miles away from the GM border

And possibly some of the new bigger ones, now they've stabilised a bit.

 

[Ashly_Jethro]

It does seem rather unsettling that rossendale transport will no longer be running the Rossendale locals. Surely Rosso can’t sustain itself with less than half a dozen services? Could this refer back to the speculation of services being absorbed into Burnley and Blackburn?

 

[RustySpoons]

Wow, not wanting to take this too far off topic but 8 tenders received. That seems like a lot.

I wonder if it could be more than one tender offer per operator? One offer for using any available vehicle, another slightly more expensive one to guarantee a minimum spec vehicle, etc?

It does seem rather unsettling that rossendale transport will no longer be running the Rossendale locals. Surely Rosso can’t sustain itself with less than half a dozen services? Could this refer back to the speculation of services being absorbed into Burnley and Blackburn?

I feel losing Rossendale locals will be the final nail in the coffin for the Rosso brand now.

 

[Andyh82]

Is there any news even if just a date of an announcement regarding the tendering of the York local routes currently with Transdev? They seem to have a full complement of staff and their services are now increasingly reliable. There definitely seem to be more passengers on the buses from my observation and use of the buses.

Imagine the disappointment in this thread if Transdev retain the contract

I get the feeling there are some here who have over the top dramatic posts already in mind

 

[Seehof]

Well Transdev have been offering a very reliable service on York locals. I have not noticed any cancellations and to my knowledge they never do what Arriva did which was cut out loops or take short cuts. I use them a lot and are currently very happy with them. My only complaint is those awful Mellors “vans” that appear occasionally - what an uncomfortable ride!!!!

 

[leedslad82]

How did Transdev manage the X98 & X99 during the troubles and their aftermath in Hareholls. did they run up Roundhay rd non stop or divert? What divert route was used? York Rd and Ring Rd? Chapletown Rd/Scott Hall Rd and ring rd. Or even through Shadwell?

They did divert away from Roundhay Road via both Chapeltown Road or York Road. It seemed to vary by journey and day.

 

[Resuwen]

Didn’t know much about Transdev before but being in Ilkley for a few days shocked to see them running a clapped out Y reg double decker in Keighley branding looking very scruffy

 

[158756]

There are timetable changes for September up for Lancashire, nothing for Coastliner or anything else in Yorkshire as yet.

As already known the Witchway and Red Express will now use Shudehill in Manchester. As with every timetable change the advertised journey times get longer again, so many trips will take longer despite not having to get through to Chorlton Street anymore. The last night bus at 3am on Friday and Saturday nights is withdrawn.

Lancashire County Council are funding a new service 2A between Blackburn and Chorley, a variation of the 2 serving Chorley Hospital, returning most of the route to a 2 buses per hour frequency. This reverses a cut made by Transdev a few years ago.

Otherwise lots of minor changes, the 152 gets an extra bus at peak times, Burnley Mainline routes are apparently getting more deckers again (I see on bustimes the two remaining Enviro 400s in Yorkshire are now listed at Burnley, though they haven't run yet), some short journeys at peak times are cut.

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[SCH117X]

Didn’t know much about Transdev before but being in Ilkley for a few days shocked to see them running a clapped out Y reg double decker in Keighley branding looking very scruffy

Seeing as 2716 (the only one in Keighley Branding) regularly clambers over the hill between Keighley and Ikley without losing time calling it clapped out must be some concept of how First etc fail to maintain their vehicles.

Keighley & District 2716 Y716HRN

a 2001 Plaxton President bodied Volvo B7TL new to Burnley & Pendle for their Witch Way service to Manchester is seen in Keighley arriving on service 62 on the 13th of July 2024.

www.flickr.com

 

[Andyh82]

Yes I question if the term “clapped out” was based purely on looking at the reg, rather than being based on the performance or interior condition

 

[Resuwen]

A combination of age and the rather tatty visual condition of the vehicle

 

[Mollman]

It does seem rather unsettling that rossendale transport will no longer be running the Rossendale locals. Surely Rosso can’t sustain itself with less than half a dozen services? Could this refer back to the speculation of services being absorbed into Burnley and Blackburn?

The locals are only a handful of services with a small PVR, it isn't going to be catastrophic given it will have no effect on the core commercial routes. Already being based at Burnley and Blackburn it won't have an impact on depot viability either

 

[Andyh82]

The Rawtenstall locals have a 2 bus PVR

 

[Deerfold]

Didn’t know much about Transdev before but being in Ilkley for a few days shocked to see them running a clapped out Y reg double decker in Keighley branding looking very scruffy

I much prefer seeing that to the minibuses we seem to be increasingly getting (often at not very quiet times).

 

[SCH117X]

A combination of age and the rather tatty visual condition of the vehicle

In what way tatty? It looks pefectly reasonable in the July photo I linked

 

[northern506]

It looks like Transdev have lost the contracts for all of the York contracted services, according to Vosa.

PB0001873/83 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: York Exhibition Square to Skelton via Rawcliffe
Service number: 19
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

PB0001873/73 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Rawcliffe to Osbaldwick, Tranby Avenue
Service number: 20
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

PB0001873/85 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: York, Piccadilly to Acomb via Holgate
Service number: 24
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

PB0001873/86 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Derwenthorpe to Fulford via York City Centre
Service number: 25
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

PB0001873/84 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Fulford to York via South Bank
Service number: 26
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

 

[dodecahedron67]

Expected, unsurprised. Expect registrations from York Pullman or East Yorkshire in return

 

[Ken H]

This is stupid. Transdev have invested in these routes. Now the council go elsewhere to save 42p and they wonder why bus provision is expensive. I think that unless there is a damned good reason to change the operator, then the incumbent should be the preferred bidder.

 

[Seehof]

So when will we know who is running them?

It looks like Transdev have lost the contracts for all of the York contracted services, according to Vosa.

PB0001873/83 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: York Exhibition Square to Skelton via Rawcliffe
Service number: 19
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

PB0001873/73 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Rawcliffe to Osbaldwick, Tranby Avenue
Service number: 20
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

PB0001873/85 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: York, Piccadilly to Acomb via Holgate
Service number: 24
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

PB0001873/86 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Derwenthorpe to Fulford via York City Centre
Service number: 25
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

PB0001873/84 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Fulford to York via South Bank
Service number: 26
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Sep 2024

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Or is this because the routes and service numbers are changing?

 

[Deerfold]

So when will we know who is running them?


== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 6 Aug 2024 ==

Or is this because the routes and service numbers are changing?

That was my first thought. It's no more expensive to deregister and reregister than it is to register a change, and simpler where the number of routes is changing.