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Trivia – The smallest harbour had harbour railway?

Gostav

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When I was reading about Newquay, a very small harbour that can only accommodate brigs and boats, but which once had a standard gauge harbour railway, I wondered if it was the smallest harbour in the UK to had a harbour railway? At least in standard gauge system.

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Pictures of Newquay harbour, https://www.theharbourfishandgrill.com/history/
 
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Do you mean self-contained within the harbour or linked to the main line network?

It was often hard to tell where short tracks for slipways or moveable cranes stopped and a ‘railway’ began.
 

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Do you mean self-contained within the harbour or linked to the main line network?

It was often hard to tell where short tracks for slipways or moveable cranes stopped and a ‘railway’ began.
I think the tracks for slideways and mobile cranes can hardly be called "railway", a harbour railway must at least had freight (at most) traffic from other places.
 

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I think the tracks for slideways and mobile cranes can hardly be called "railway", a harbour railway must at least had freight (at most) traffic from other places.
Being connected to a wider rail network probably isn't necessary, since one could imagine a large port complex with significant internal traffic being otherwise disconnected from the main line railway. I don't know if Gibraltar dockyard had an internal rail network, but if so it would qualify here. Of course, such a harbour is also unlikely to be small.

I'd suggest that a 'harbour railway' also needs to be distinguished from merely some sidings adjacent to the harbour. A reasonable definition might be that a harbour railway is intended to be used for the transport of goods and/or passengers within the harbour limits, whereas a rail-served harbour has sidings etc. solely to facilitate transfer of goods between ships and the wider rail system.

The question of 'smallest harbour' also invites the question as to how that's defined. The acreage of basins might be a good start... but then what about non-enclosed harbours, or those where only one basin is served by rail?

Certainly both Portreath and Burghead harbours have basins about two-thirds the size of Newquay harbour and both were rail served. I think the old pier at Findhorn had a siding of the hilariously uneconomic (it closed in 1869 after less than a decade) Findhorn Railway, certainly the line ran to the heads of both piers. If that counts as a harbour railway (doubtful, IMO!) it'll be hard to beat.
 

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Some small harbours around the South East-

Hampton-on-sea (now washed away after a storm) was on a short branch from Herne Bay which closed in the 1880s.
Rye Harbour was at the end of a short branch from the Ashford-Hastings Line.
Whitstable Harbour (served by the branch from Canterbury West until the 1950s) was small but unsure how it compares with others.
 

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Campbeltown on the Kintyre Peninsula in Argyll & Bute? Until closure of the line in 1931, its tiny harbour was served by the narrow gauge Campbeltown & Machrihanish Light Railway.
 

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Campbeltown on the Kintyre Peninsula in Argyll & Bute? Until closure of the line in 1931, its tiny harbour was served by the narrow gauge Campbeltown & Machrihanish Light Railway.
Good shout that, but didn't the OP specify standard gauge?
 

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ISTR Portpatrick Harbour was served by a short branch on the Stranraer to Portpatrick section of the ‘Port Road’.
Interesting... both https://maps.nls.uk/view/75679737 (1907) and the 1897 one show a cutting from Portpatrick station towards the harbour but no track. I thought it might have been under construction in the first one, but it seems track was not laid.
 

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ISTR Portpatrick Harbour was served by a short branch on the Stranraer to Portpatrick section of the ‘Port Road’.

Trains started running 11 September 1868, service reduced 21 September and ceased a few weeks later. Trains were operated by the Caledonian Railway but were not in the timetable.

Source: Quick’s Chronology.
 

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Calstock Quay on the tidal River Tamar must be in with shout. Only reached by a single wagon hoist over 100 feet high from the railway viaduct. Main line wagons were moved to and from the quay by horses.
 

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Trains started running 11 September 1868, service reduced 21 September and ceased a few weeks later.
So, possibly so short-lived that the trackwork for the Portpatrick Harbour branch never actually appeared on an OS map revision?
 

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ISTR Portpatrick Harbour was served by a short branch on the Stranraer to Portpatrick section of the ‘Port Road’.

And opposite on the Northern Ireland side was Donaghadee harbour. This had a short line running down the harbour.
Here's a nice Youtube clip I found about it:

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Would a ‘harbour railway’ not by definition be a self contained system and therefore require to have its own (BR allocated or privately owned) motive power?
 

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So, possibly so short-lived that the trackwork for the Portpatrick Harbour branch never actually appeared on an OS map revision?

A quick look at the relevant Oakwood book suggests that the line to the harbour only opened shortly before the ephemeral passenger service and closed completely circa 1870. There appears to still be a bridge abutment at the top of Hill St.
 

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Topsham?

This is bit of a case of ‘define a harbour’. What about a tidal wharf with a siding on it, for example?
That's what I thought about when I suggested Wells-Next-the Sea. Not a pretty pair of walls enclosing a sheltered bit of water, but still the way that most longer-distance freight moved to anywhere vaguely near the coast right up to the time the railways came - unless there was a canal within reach.

Buckler's Hard is an example (even if they mainly built ships there) but other "Hards" exist all over the low-lying areas of the coast and I suspect that most beaches were used for unloading stuff like coal for businesses within reach.

p.s. I have just looked at https://maps.nls.uk/view/101444662 and Topsham is a good call too. I guess the problem will be that there are dozens, if not hundreds, of small quays that had a branch to them.
Maybe we need to go back to "an enclosed bit of water with walls built up to allow ships to load and unload!" Which rules out e.g. Teignmouth.
 
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A quick look at the relevant Oakwood book suggests that the line to the harbour only opened shortly before the ephemeral passenger service and closed completely circa 1870. There appears to still be a bridge abutment at the top of Hill St.
This line was spectacularly awkward, accessed by a training junction beyond Portpatrick station from a very short shunting neck, with a capacity (according to D L Smith) of no more than a loco and two four wheeled carriages. The ruling grade was 1 in 35 just to add to the fun! The line was lifted in 1875 by the CR for the princely sum of £14 10s 6d.
 

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Dibles Wharf, Northam, Southampton.
Medina Wharf, Cowes, Isle of Wight.
Priddy's Hard, Gosport, Hampshire.
Shoreham Harbour, West Sussex.
Hamworthy Quay, Dorset.
Sharpness Docks, Gloucestershire.
Ayr Harbour, Scotland.
Troon Harbour, Scotland.
Irvine Harbour, Scotland.
Rothesay Dock, Yoker, Glasgow.

I believe that there was also once a steeply-graded switchback branch from Tweedmouth Yard down to Spittal Harbour.
 

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Dibles Wharf, Northam, Southampton.
Medina Wharf, Cowes, Isle of Wight.
Priddy's Hard, Gosport, Hampshire.
Shoreham Harbour, West Sussex.
Hamworthy Quay, Dorset.
Sharpness Docks, Gloucestershire.
Ayr Harbour, Scotland.
Troon Harbour, Scotland.
Irvine Harbour, Scotland.
Rothesay Dock, Yoker, Glasgow.

I believe that there was also once a steeply-graded switchback branch from Tweedmouth Yard down to Spittal Harbour.
but surely Sharpness, Ayr, Troon and Irvine can't possibly be anywhere near "the smallest harbour?"

With an indirect family link to Tweedmouth Yard I shall have a look at the old maps of Spittal. It was certainly an industrial area, with potteries, a tannery etc IIRC. I shall also have to look at the harbour...
 

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With an indirect family link to Tweedmouth Yard I shall have a look at the old maps of Spittal. It was certainly an industrial area, with potteries, a tannery etc IIRC. I shall also have to look at the harbour...
I would say that there was definitely once a rail connection down to Tweed Dock (Tweedmouth) from the ECML mainline, likely needing a double reversal to zigzag its way steeply down the hillside from Tweedmouth station. Believe the dock railway line was operational from c. October 1878 until the mid 20th century.
 

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So, possibly so short-lived that the trackwork for the Portpatrick Harbour branch never actually appeared on an OS map revision?
This is a distinct possibility - I was in a pub at the harbour which had the usual ‘olde worlds’ pictures of the area, and one of them showed a train in steam reversing (I believe) down to the Harbour and the waiting ships to NI (which included mails) until the unsuitability of the harbour in inclement weather switched them to Stranraer.

The image shows the line from Stranraer Town coming in from the south (in green), and the sidings for the reversal to the harbour (in red).

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Having walked the route from Stranraer, I stayed at the station (which was a camping site) and you walked up the platform ramp to the station building which had been converted to toilets and showers. This was eventually closed and private housing replaced it both at the station and the route down to the harbour. The only evidence the line even existed can be seen with the bridge abutment’s on either side of Main Street.

Has anyone mentioned the ‘Military’ branch line from Stranraer Town north to Cairnryan Harbour? It was only single track but I cannot recall if it was standard gauge or not, but most likely was as it was a spur off the line to Dunragit.
 
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Has anyone mentioned the ‘Military’ branch line from Stranraer Town north to Cairnryan Harbour? It was only single track but I cannot recall if it was standard gauge or not, but most likely was as it was a spur off the line to Dunragit.
The standard gauge Cainryan Military Railway branched off the main line between Dunragit and Stranraer. Military Port No 2 at Cairnryan was constructed in some secrecy in 1940 to provide an alternative deep water dock should Liverpool or Glasgow be rendered unusable by enemy bombing. The installation ended up with 30 miles of track, sidings for 2,900 wagons, 4 harbours, 31 wharf gantry cranes, 4 stations and accommodation for 4,000 men. So not really a contender as the smallest harbour, I suggest.
 

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