Trivia: Highest mileage diagram in a day?

[Craigpotter]

what is the highest mileage a single unit covers in a day. I’m thinking along the lines of some cross country units which do Penzance Glasgow then back to York but I could be way off?

 

[Prestige15]

According to RAIL. It was a Virgin Pendolino.
Started at 04:22 at wembley and ended at Longsight at 02:28, The ‘390’ operate the 0422 empty coaching stock to London Euston, the 0526 Euston to Liverpool Lime Street, 0847 return to Euston, 1130 to Glasgow Central, 1640 return, 2300 to Manchester Piccadilly and 0220 ECS to Longsight. All told, this will be 1,3831⁄2 miles.

 

[LiftFan]

Sounds about right, I'm guessing the GWR ones that go to Penzance and back must get in a lot of mileage too during the day.

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

For many years that honour belonged to a EC HST turn which had just shy of 1,100 miles in the day. Even now the am Leeds-Aberdeen then goes to Kings Cross and back to Leeds for about 1,070 miles. But with the long stretches of high speed running on the WCML combined with very early starts I would guess Pendolino diagrams probably fill many places in the top 10 nationally.

 

[superalbs]

I can't imagine a London-Marseille and return Eurostar diagram would be any small amount of miles.

 

[BestWestern]

Sounds about right, I'm guessing the GWR ones that go to Penzance and back must get in a lot of mileage too during the day.

I don't think they'd score as highly as you might imagine, it's long on journey time but slow, so not that high on miles. Google suggests Pad - Pnz comes in at less than 300 miles, despite being a journey of around five hours or so. So a return trip is most of the day but less than 600 miles.

 

[MisterT]

If someone is interested in the Dutch NS trains, a realtime feed can be found at https://treinposities.nl/kilometervreter
As it is updated continuously, it starts at midnight with 0 km for every train set, so the total score can be seen by the end of the day

 

[InOban]

To rack up the miles you need to stay in 125 territory. With the 0540 from Edinburgh in KX by 940, that set would have time for another round trip to Edinburgh and a late trip to Leeds or Newcastle, but I don't know the actual diagrams.

 

[SouthSub]

To rack up the miles you need to stay in 125 territory. With the 0540 from Edinburgh in KX by 940, that set would have time for another round trip to Edinburgh and a late trip to Leeds or Newcastle, but I don't know the actual diagrams.

I think it does that, ending up in Leeds.

 

[43096]

For many years that honour belonged to a EC HST turn which had just shy of 1,100 miles in the day. Even now the am Leeds-Aberdeen then goes to Kings Cross and back to Leeds for about 1,070 miles. But with the long stretches of high speed running on the WCML combined with very early starts I would guess Pendolino diagrams probably fill many places in the top 10 nationally.

There are some high mileage Class 91 diagrams as well. Highest I can find for them is a diagram that does Newcastle-KX, KX-Edinburgh, Edinburgh-KX, KX-Leeds, which is well over 1,200 miles. There are several others that are over 1,100 miles as well.

 

[Ianno87]

I think it does that, ending up in Leeds.

Tracing From OpenTrainTimes it's
ECS from Craigentinny - c.4 miles
0540 Edinburgh-King's Cross (0940) - 393 miles
1100 King's Cross-Edinburgh (1517) - 393 miles
1630 Edinburgh-King's Cross (2051) - 393 miles
2135 King's Cross-Leeds (0008) - c.180 miles
ECS to Neville Hill - c. 2 miles

Total about 1,365 miles. So not far short of VTWC's longest.

 

[Wychwood93]

I can't imagine a London-Marseille and return Eurostar diagram would be any small amount of miles.

By my reckoning it is 1536.8 miles there and back. A good day out!

 

[D7666]

don't have to go to 125 mph trains for high mileages

tp 350/4s have some 1000+ mile diagrams

ok that won't get them in the top 10 list or maybe not even top 100 but they are a lot further than all? the gw 125 mph stuff

--
Nick

 

[Highlandspring]

Haymarket 170/4s have a few 800+ mile diagrams. In the current timetable ScotRail's longest diagram is HA703 at 906.4 miles, nearly 20 hours work.

 

[CharlieSpotted]

According to RAIL. It was a Virgin Pendolino.
Started at 04:22 at wembley and ended at Longsight at 02:28, The ‘390’ operate the 0422 empty coaching stock to London Euston, the 0526 Euston to Liverpool Lime Street, 0847 return to Euston, 1130 to Glasgow Central, 1640 return, 2300 to Manchester Piccadilly and 0220 ECS to Longsight. All told, this will be 1,3831⁄2 miles.

Presumably the same unit doesn't get just 2 hours rest before doing the same thing all over again?

 

[eastwestdivide]

If someone is interested in the Dutch NS trains, a realtime feed can be found at https://treinposities.nl/kilometervreter
As it is updated continuously, it starts at midnight with 0 km for every train set, so the total score can be seen by the end of the day

What a resource!
Currently the leaderboard has 1152km (715 miles, for unit 9407 at 17:05 GMT). It's been working since the 00:49 off Rotterdam!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Presumably the same unit doesn't get just 2 hours rest before doing the same thing all over again?

No. It'll be a different unit each day due to starting at Wembley and finishing at Longsight.

 

[MontyP]

Related to this - how many miles have some of the IC125s covered since they were introduced over 40 years ago? 1000 miles per day, say 300 days per year - some must have covered close to 10 million miles if my arithmetic is correct?

 

[43096]

Related to this - how many miles have some of the IC125s covered since they were introduced over 40 years ago? 1000 miles per day, say 300 days per year - some must have covered close to 10 million miles if my arithmetic is correct?

Highest mileage power cars are 43238/239 - somewhere north of 9.5 million miles.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Much of the HST power car equipment has been renewed though, much like Trigger's broom.
The MTU engines are "nearly new".
I guess bogies and running gear have done the lot though.

 

[Domh245]

Much of the HST power car equipment has been renewed though, much like Trigger's broom.
The MTU engines are "nearly new".
I guess bogies and running gear have done the lot though.

Bogies and running gear also wears and needs to be replaced, think if the original bogies were still fitted to the vehicles, after a few autumns they'd be a fraction of their original diameter!

 

[London Trains]

According to RAIL. It was a Virgin Pendolino.
Started at 04:22 at wembley and ended at Longsight at 02:28, The ‘390’ operate the 0422 empty coaching stock to London Euston, the 0526 Euston to Liverpool Lime Street, 0847 return to Euston, 1130 to Glasgow Central, 1640 return, 2300 to Manchester Piccadilly and 0220 ECS to Longsight. All told, this will be 1,3831⁄2 miles.

I think that article is old now.
What I now have has split this into:

FIRST DIAGRAM FROM WEMBLEY
0422 ECS Wembley to Euston
0526 Liverpool Lime Street
0847 Euston
1130 Glasgow Central
1640 Euston
2333 ECS to Wembley

SECOND DIAGRAM FROM WEMBLEY
04:30 ECS Wembley to Euston
05:31 Glasgow Central
11:40 Euston
16:29 ECS Euston Carriage Shed
17:23 ECS Euston
17:40 Manchester Piccadilly
20:15 Euston
23:00 Manchester Piccadilly
02:22 ECS Longsight Depot

Worked out from RTT and OTT.​

 

[PHILIPE]

Nobody has mentioned XC yet where there are sure to be some long diagrams. Will try and dig something out from when there was a previously similar thread

 

[43096]

Bogies and running gear also wears and needs to be replaced, think if the original bogies were still fitted to the vehicles, after a few autumns they'd be a fraction of their original diameter!

Wheelsets are replaced, obviously, but bogies are overhauled.

The frame and bodywork is largely original, of course.

 

[Domh245]

Wheelsets are replaced, obviously, but bogies are overhauled.

The frame and bodywork is largely original, of course.

Yes, bit of a brain fart earlier. Point still stands though, just about everything apart from the bodywork and frame will have been replaced with 'like-new' components at some point in a powercar's life

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I don't think they'd score as highly as you might imagine, it's long on journey time but slow, so not that high on miles. Google suggests Pad - Pnz comes in at less than 300 miles, despite being a journey of around five hours or so. So a return trip is most of the day but less than 600 miles.

It's 305¼ miles via the Berks and Hants, according to the eNRT table 135.

 

[BestWestern]

Yes, bit of a brain fart earlier. Point still stands though, just about everything apart from the bodywork and frame will have been replaced with 'like-new' components at some point in a powercar's life

And of course the bogies may be original, but they won't still be attached to their original power car, as they're removed and sent for overhaul and replaced with freshly overhauled ones.

 

[snowball]

Nobody has mentioned XC yet

Except the OP.

 

[Highlandspring]

Nobody has mentioned XC yet where there are sure to be some long diagrams.

I had a quick look through the December 2017 timetable Voyager SX LTP diagrams this evening.. there are a good few 800+ and 900+ miles but only a handful over the magic 1000 -

XC515 = 1003
XC402 = 1009
XC432 = 1017
XC418 = 1032
XC429 = 1035
XC415 = 1051
XC507 = 1051
XC503 = 1059
XC506 = 1132

Interestingly the shortest is XC435 at just 108 miles, running from Central Rivers to Birmingham New Street via Stafford to sit as hot standby all day before returning the same way (providing it isn't used).

 

[LiftFan]

I think it's the Class 139 running the Stourbridge Town - Stourbridge Junction shuttle.