Trivia: KWVR Diesel Gala Rumours and Speculations

[LRV3004]

31452 in 05 too. Gave a good account!

I went to that gala but strangely don’t remember 31452 being there! Just looked at some pics of that event on Flickr - I remember most of the other locos there but not 31452 oddly enough!!!! Can’t believe that’s almost 19 years ago now though……!!!!

 

[norbitonflyer]

I would doubt it, they don't get 4 axle locos (I can't remember one) due to curvature at Keighley.

That may be true, but strictly speaking don't both Peaks and 40s have the unpowered axle articulated to the rest of the bogie, so should be able to cope with any curve a 2-6-0 can negotiate.

 

[YorkshireBear]

That may be true, but strictly speaking don't both Peaks and 40s have the unpowered axle articulated to the rest of the bogie, so should be able to cope with any curve a 2-6-0 can negotiate.

I am trying to dig out the details but my Gmail search function is awful. The reverse curves through the pointwork at Keighley are too much for them to take based on their history of derailments in similar areas.

 

[Forty29]

No the whole bogie is one piece. Tight curves were l think the main reason for fractures in the bogie frame. A downfall of the design.

 

[Iskra]

How about a WCRC class 33? The timetables are now online and one of the coaching rakes is labelled as 'WCR'.

 

[kje7812]

That would be the only Sulzer which at least offers a bit of variety.
Having consulted the preview timetable, it appears that the Western isn't out till late afternoon on both Saturday and Sunday. Well, good thing I was planning on staying late both days.

 

[31160]

Well if its a WCRC loco, how about one of the 57/0s? Dunno if 006 still works but 009 or 10 would be worth a shout, I suppose WCRC have got some spare MK 1s not doing a lof atm

 

[Iskra]

Well if its a WCRC loco, how about one of the 57/0s? Dunno if 006 still works but 009 or 10 would be worth a shout, I suppose WCRC have got some spare MK 1s not doing a lof atm

I’m sure some would be happy at that, but 33’s are a bit more in keeping with the Western theme…

 

[xotGD]

I’m sure some would be happy at that, but 33’s are a bit more in keeping with the Western theme…

Plenty of 37s on the Western Region. We could always get a third?

 

[DarloRich]

has this mystery loco been annouced yet? If not is there an announcement date?

 

[xotGD]

has this mystery loco been annouced yet? If not is there an announcement date?

Just checked the X feed - nothing yet.

 

[yoyothehobo]

i reckon it will be the ghost of 45015.

 

[xotGD]

I'm thinking it must be air braked only, since it doesn't appear to be working on the KWVR's own coaching stock.

 

[Gwr12345]

The 37 visiting from the Wensleydale Railway is now in EWS livery!

 

[DarloRich]

The 37 visiting from the Wensleydale Railway is now in EWS livery!

i saw that on social media last night - looks very fine

 

[31160]

The 37 visiting from the Wensleydale Railway is now in EWS livery!

I'm surprised they got permission for that I assume the rights lie with DB

 

[xotGD]

The 37 visiting from the Wensleydale Railway is now in EWS livery!

Boo! I wanted blue and covered with grime - just like when it was allocated to GD!

 

[Iskra]

I'm surprised they got permission for that I assume the rights lie with DB

There’s already a EWS class 31 on the NYMR too currently, so presumably they are quite open to it. It is of course a historic livery now, with DB’s livery being red.

That 37 does look stunning. I’m undecided on whether I’m attending the KWVR gala at this point or not, but if I don’t I’ll be aiming to head to the Wensleydale for a run behind it instead.

 

[31160]

There’s already a EWS class 31 on the NYMR too currently, so presumably they are quite open to it. It is of course a historic livery now, with DB’s livery being red.

That 37 does look stunning. I’m undecided on whether I’m attending the KWVR gala at this point or not, but if I don’t I’ll be aiming to head to the Wensleydale for a run behind it instead.

Yeah but 31466 was painted BY EWS for the 2000 Toton open day, I daresay its a bit different if you paint it yourselfs

 

[Iskra]

Yeah but 31466 was painted BY EWS for the 2000 Toton open day, I daresay its a bit different if you paint it yourselfs

Really? it’s looking remarkably good for something painted such a long time back!

 

[bluegoblin7]

It was repainted in 2020.

 

[31160]

Really? it’s looking remarkably good for something painted such a long time back!

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OK then it was FIRST painted EWS by EWS for the open day at Toton, just check flickr if you don't belive me

 

[alexl92]

Are West Coast’s mk1s dual-braked? The KWVR appeared to confirm on Facebook a while back that they were hiring in an air-braked rake, and that it wouldn’t be the LSL scotrail set.

 

[Gwr12345]

Are West Coast’s mk1s dual-braked? The KWVR appeared to confirm on Facebook a while back that they were hiring in an air-braked rake, and that it wouldn’t be the LSL scotrail set.

I believe they have a mix of air, vacuum and dual braked Mark ones but at the moment they probably won't be up to much!

 

[47403]

Boo! I wanted blue and covered with grime - just like when it was allocated to GD!

Having seen the pictures of 37250, which looks stunning by the way. Mr xot, i think we can certainly agree a GD loco has never looked that clean since they painted the gennies up for naming.

 

[Gwr12345]

What are the queues normally like for collecting tickets at the KWVR? Trying to decide whether to book in advance, or if I should just chance it and by the (only slightly) higher price on the day if the queue is likely to be shorter.

 

[Iskra]

What are the queues normally like for collecting tickets at the KWVR? Trying to decide whether to book in advance, or if I should just chance it and by the (only slightly) higher price on the day if the queue is likely to be shorter.

Isn’t it just a QR code, which you show on board? Fairly sure that’s what I’ve had before at the KWVR although more recently I’ve just been paying on the day, even paying at the buffet on board on one occasion (with permission).

 

[Gwr12345]

Isn’t it just a QR code, which you show on board? Fairly sure that’s what I’ve had before at the KWVR although more recently I’ve just been paying on the day.

I assumed you had to collect them and that's when they gave you the gala timetable?

 

[Iskra]

I assumed you had to collect them and that's when they gave you the gala timetable?

It’s possibly different for the gala with the tickets, but I’m not sure logically why it would be, although at another railway recently I was issued with a wristband instead of a ticket and I felt that worked well. The gala timetable is already available online. If you need a paper copy just ask at the ticket office and they’ll supply one I’m sure. Normally, they have the timetabled trains on a chalkboard which I’d usually just take a photo of so that I have it on my phone, that may be a bit complex for a gala though.

 

[xotGD]

It is the same queue to collect pre-booked tickets or to buy on the day.

If you can arrive good and early you can beat the queue, or, if driving, park at Ingrow where there will be a lot fewer people.