(Trivia) Scheduled passenger services that terminate after 2am in the morning

[90sWereBetter]

Outside of the East London Line running overnight at weekends and sleeper services, are there any scheduled passenger services nowadays which reach their terminus after 2am and before 5am in the morning?

 

[Mag_seven]

22.49 Padd Swansea arriving at Swansea at 02.11.

Realtime Trains | 1B38 2249 London Paddington to Swansea | 14/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 1B38 2249 departure from London Paddington to Swansea on 14/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Verulamius]

Thameslink between Bedford and Three Bridges run hourly throughout the night.

9W90 Horsham to Peterborough arrives at Peterborough at 0221

 

[moogal]

Plenty of commuter belt services from London around that time period - e.g. the 0139 Euston to Milton Keynes Central arrives in MK at 0246

 

[stadler]

The last train of the day from Bedford and London to Brighton arrives Brighton at 02:28 and runs seven days a week.

 

[HarryF]

The 23:33 London King’s Cross to Leeds is scheduled to arrive at Leeds at 02:21

 

[liamf656]

EMR run 1F87 which leaves St Pancras at 23:05 and arrives at Derby at 02:01 on non-engineering days. If there are engineering works it could arrive up to 40 minutes later. This week its going via Stenson and arrives at 02:25

Realtime Trains | 1F87 2305 St Pancras International to Derby | 18/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 1F87 2305 departure from St Pancras International to Derby on 18/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[alex17595]

Theres a 2330 from Euston to Wolverhampton arriving at 0202.

 

[Magdalia]

9W90 Horsham to Peterborough arrives at Peterborough at 0221

And 1P00 0136 from Kings Cross arrives Peterborough at 0305.

 

[CommuterPigeon]

York has two services terminating post 2am. The 23:42 and 00:38 both from Manchester Airport terminate at York at 02:17 and 03:13 respectively.

 

[OliverH68]

1B01 0105 Waterloo - So'ton arrives at 0249 Sat AM, and at 0256 Sun AM.

2K79 0142 Waterloo - Twickenham arrives at 0223 Sat/Sun AM.

 

[Y Ddraig Coch]

00.39 from Chester - Holyhead arrives into Holyhead at 02.24

 

[Mcr Warrior]

The 2335 SWR service (train ID: 2B77) from London Waterloo sometimes terminates at Bournemouth at 0201 on certain nights of the week.

 

[Harvey B]

Transpennine Express run a few overnight services between York and Manchester

 

[Bletchleyite]

0139 Euston to Milton Keynes Central, arriving 0246. Every night but Saturday. This unit doesn't "go to bed", rather it works back to Euston at 0330.

 

[Jamesrob637]

0139 Euston to Milton Keynes Central, arriving 0246. Every night but Saturday. This unit doesn't "go to bed", rather it works back to Euston at 0330.

Wouldn't 01:39 make sense on a Saturday too? Lots go pubbing and clubbing until around 1am in London: staying up until the wee hours doesn't interest the majority nowadays (never really did to be fair)

 

[A S Leib]

00.39 from Chester - Holyhead arrives into Holyhead at 02.24

Which doesn't make tonnes of sense to me when there's a 02:15 to Dublin then nothing that direction for six hours (although presumably 02:04 would be too tight to get to the ferry terminal and through security).

 

[30907]

Wouldn't 01:39 make sense on a Saturday too? Lots go pubbing and clubbing until around 1am in London: staying up until the wee hours doesn't interest the majority nowadays (never really did to be fair)

It runs (says RTT) as 5 separate RRBs as far as Milton Keynes C, while the engineers do their nocturnal business.

 

[D6975]

Which doesn't make tonnes of sense to me when there's a 02:15 to Dublin then nothing that direction for six hours (although presumably 02:04 would be too tight to get to the ferry terminal and through security).

Is this an example of the railways hopelessly failing to keep up with changes to the ferry timetables? I remember doing the overnight New St-Holyhead ( arr 02:XX) behind a 37 then sailing to Ireland on the 04:10 from Holyhead back in the 90s. It wouldn't surprise me if the ferry times changed years ago and the trains stayed the same.

 

[A S Leib]

Is this an example of the railways hopelessly failing to keep up with changes to the ferry timetables? I remember doing the overnight New St-Holyhead ( arr 02:XX) behind a 37 then sailing to Ireland on the 04:10 from Holyhead back in the 90s. It wouldn't surprise me if the ferry times changed years ago and the trains stayed the same.

The plus side is that there's also an 00:51 arrival from Cardiff (22:56 from Chester) and an hour and twenty minutes seems a reasonable time to leave to get onto the ferry. I'm also not sure whether or not there is still an 04:×× in the summer; at this time of year, even during the holidays, I can't say it sounds massively attractive.

 

[meridian222017]

EMR run 1F87 which leaves St Pancras at 23:05 and arrives at Derby at 02:01 on non-engineering days. If there are engineering works it could arrive up to 40 minutes later. This week its going via Stenson and arrives at 02:25

Realtime Trains | 1F87 2305 St Pancras International to Derby | 18/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 1F87 2305 departure from St Pancras International to Derby on 18/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

To add to this, on weeknights, there is also a 23:35 St Pancras to Nottingham, running via the Manton route, reversing at Leicester, and usually arriving in Nottingham at 02:19, although like the above service, the arrival time is often changed to be anytime between then and 03:00.

During disruption on Friday 8th December (into Sat 9th), it only left St Pancras at 00:41 and appears to have been sent 'the normal way' via Market Harborough, arriving at Nottingham only 6 mins later than the planned 02:32.

As has been mentioned a few times on this forum, there was also an 00:15 to Derby until quite recently.

 

[MontyP]

There are still some all-night GWR services between Paddington and Reading.

 

[Alex365Dash]

The last train of the day from Bedford and London to Brighton arrives Brighton at 02:28 and runs seven days a week.

This service actually runs six days a week - on Saturday night/Sunday morning, the Thameslink core is closed.

Southern run night trains on Saturday nights between London Victoria and Three Bridges, as well as a train departing London Victoria at 01:08 on Sunday morning to Brighton via Hove, arriving at Hove 02:39 and Brighton 02:47.

 

[CarrotPie]

This service actually runs six days a week - on Saturday night/Sunday morning, the Thameslink core is closed.

Why is it closed on one of the most useful days of the week for it to be open on?

 

[BeijingDave]

Why is it closed on one of the most useful days of the week for it to be open on?

Probably partly so it doesn't become a vomit comet.

 

[Steve Harris]

Why is it closed on one of the most useful days of the week for it to be open on?

Maintenance !!

 

[CarrotPie]

Maintenance !!

I get that, but why not do it on (say) Sunday night/Monday morning instead of over the weekend?

 

[MP393]

I get that, but why not do it on (say) Sunday night/Monday morning instead of over the weekend?

I would suggest because the implications of an overrun on a Sunday morning are less so that hitting the commuters on a Monday morning.

They also have longer on a Sat/Sun night, as the services start up later on a Sunday morning than they do Monday morning where typically services all over run a lot earlier.

 

[Howardh]

Wouldn't 01:39 make sense on a Saturday too? Lots go pubbing and clubbing until around 1am in London: staying up until the wee hours doesn't interest the majority nowadays (never really did to be fair)

That's what I'll be doing as soon as new year starts, hope those late trains back to Milton Keynes are reliable!! Much cheaper to stay in MK and "commute" to London for a night out.

 

[CarrotPie]

I would suggest because the implications of an overrun on a Sunday morning are less so that hitting the commuters on a Monday morning.

They also have longer on a Sat/Sun night, as the services start up later on a Sunday morning than they do Monday morning where typically services all over run a lot earlier.

Ah, right. Makes sense.