Trivia: Unusual train services

[D6975]

Used to be a Glasgow to Elgin , not sure if that still runs and a Glasgow to Kyle

Better than that, there's a Glasgow-Inverness via Aberdeen.

 

[route101]

Better than that, there's a Glasgow-Inverness via Aberdeen.

Yeah , but this service terminated at Elgin .

 

[Esker-pades]

There are Sunday only Glasgow to Elgin via Inverness services.

 

[agbrs_Jack]

That is an oddity alright, and misses cheadle Hulme out too, despite slowing for the junction anyway, but I guess it stops people changing for Stockport! I don't know why you can't go to Stockport then, but they really have made sure you can't.

Similarly the 1258 SOT-MAN Monday to Friday calls at all from Stoke (except Longport) then non-stop Cheadle Hulme to Manchester Piccadilly

 

[delticdave]

Schools throw up the odd unusual working, such as the 15.58 Ingatestone to Colchester.

Do you know where the stock for this train originates?

 

[Flange Squeal]

07:34 Waterloo to Guildford

There are three regular routes between these stations, taking around...

via Guildford: 34 mins
via Cobham: 59 mins
via Epsom: 71 mins

This train runs an even more ‘scenic route’ via Richmond (where it used to start having run empties from Waterloo!), Ascot and Aldershot, which takes a whopping 111 minutes and includes a reversal enroute. It also runs non-stop between Egham and Ascot, skipping Virginia Water and Sunningdale, unlike any other services on the Reading line.

 

[Esker-pades]

07:34 Waterloo to Guildford

There are three regular routes between these stations, taking around...

via Guildford: 34 mins
via Cobham: 59 mins
via Epsom: 71 mins

This train runs an even more ‘scenic route’ via Richmond (where it used to start having run empties from Waterloo!), Ascot and Aldershot, which takes a whopping 111 minutes and includes a reversal enroute. It also runs non-stop between Egham and Ascot, skipping Virginia Water and Sunningdale, unlike any other services on the Reading line.

Guildford via Guildford? You might need to edit something slightly.

The service you talk about is effectively a Waterloo to Reading and an Ascot to Guildford service shoved together.

 

[FS-2-11]

The section of track between Cowlairs North and East Junctions were once frequently used by the Fort William portion of the sleeper train. Since this has been re-routed via Glasgow Queen Street low level, the Summer Sundays Only Edinburgh Waverley - Oban still maintains a passenger service along that particular stretch of track, and also avoids having to go through a formal closure process.

I remember in Class 27 days being on an Edinburgh-Glasgow train which was full of returning football fans, and some signalling issue at Cowlairs required it to run via the triangle; a few intrepid locals decided to detrain via the slam doors and make their way home up the embankment while the driver was changing ends

 

[Flange Squeal]

Guildford via Guildford? You might need to edit something slightly.

The service you talk about is effectively a Waterloo to Reading and an Ascot to Guildford service shoved together.

Yes, my apologies - I meant via Woking! It runs on one reporting number throughout so is surely still worthy of a mention, as well as the fact I don’t think any other trains skip Sunningdale (with only one weekday up train skipping Virginia Water).

 

[Esker-pades]

Yes, my apologies - I meant via Woking! It runs on one reporting number throughout so is surely still worthy of a mention, as well as the fact I don’t think any other trains skip Sunningdale (with only one weekday up train skipping Virginia Water).

It is worthy of mention, I was just explaning why it existed.

 

[A Challenge]

There are a few (I think it's four) trains out of Waterloo in the evening peek that are advertised as first stop Winchester, whereas off peak they are Woking then Winchester. Nothing of about missing out stops in the peaks, except one of these does have the stop at Woking, as pick up only. Why have both stops skipped and pick up only at the same station in the peak when on different trains running what is ultimatly the same service?

 

[DavidGrain]

Why have both stops skipped and pick up only at the same station in the peak when on different trains running what is ultimatly the same service?

The 'pick up' only in the peak is the same reason that Virgin trains from Euston never show Watford Junction even if they stop there. It is to stop people for the 'inner' station crowding onto the train at the expense of the longer distance passengers who might be unable to board.

 

[A Challenge]

One is pick up only, the others just skip, though. Why both?

 

[greatkingrat]

One is pick up only, the others just skip, though. Why both?

To avoid a long gap in the service from Woking to Winchester and beyond.

 

[306024]

Do you know where the stock for this train originates?

Cars from the Car Sheds. Or Empty Coaching Stock from Ilford Electric Multiple Unit Depot if you don’t speak Great Eastern!

 

[delticdave]

Cars from the Car Sheds. Or Empty Coaching Stock from Ilford Electric Multiple Unit Depot if you don’t speak Great Eastern!

Thanks, I thought Ilford was the most likely option, but I couldn't find any evidence in the Shenfield - Norwich Working Timetable.
As for speaking G.E. I'm from Walthamstow, used to live near Wood St. shed carriage sidings + when listening to an even older loco driver (Stratford) friend he always uses "cars" rather than ECS.

 

[mr williams]

In the late 80s for a couple of years there was an early morning Cwmbran - Paddington HST which ran via Hereford. The evening return ran on to Newport (and strangely it called at Pontypool both ways as well as Abergavenny!).
Off-peak tickets were valid, making it was the earliest possible arrival at Paddington on a cheaper ticket, which is is possibly why it didn't start from Newport on the way up.

 

[PHILIPE]

In the late 80s for a couple of years there was an early morning Cwmbran - Paddington HST which ran via Hereford. The evening return ran on to Newport (and strangely it called at Pontypool both ways as well as Abergavenny!).
Off-peak tickets were valid, making it was the earliest possible arrival at Paddington on a cheaper ticket, which is is possibly why it didn't start from Newport on the way up.

It would have run ECS from the Marsh via the Maindee Curve. In any case, who would want to travel from Newport to London via Hereford and the Cotswolds.

 

[Dai Corner]

It would have run ECS from the Marsh via the Maindee Curve. In any case, who would want to travel from Newport to London via Hereford and the Cotswolds.

Doesn't it still run, though as an ECS these days?

 

[PHILIPE]

Doesn't it still run, though as an ECS these days?

As an ECS, yes.