Trivia: Which UK stations have (or have historically) had stations using the same name but with a slight variation?

[Bertone]

HATCH END
Opened as “Pinner” in the 1840’s
Renamed as “Pinner and Hatch End” in 1897
Renamed as “Hatch End for Pinner” in 1920
Renamed as just “Hatch End” in 1956.

 

[swt_passenger]

The OP mentioned his emphasis was on ‘spin off’ stations, I don’t think a simple renaming, or duplicate names in other parts of the country have anything to do with his original question?

 

[Magdalia]

Gloucester Central and Gloucester Eastgate were renamed as one station "Gloucester" from 26th May 1968, seven years before the closure of the Gloucester Eastgate part in 1975.

Gloucester Eastgate and Central are shown with separate names in the public timetables up to and including 1975.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

The OP mentioned his emphasis was on ‘spin off’ stations, I don’t think a simple renaming, or duplicate names in other parts of the country have anything to do with his original question?

@swt_passenger. Are you of the opinion that it might, perhaps, be useful for the thread title to be tweaked so as to clarify this point?

 

[Mat17]

The OP mentioned his emphasis was on ‘spin off’ stations, I don’t think a simple renaming, or duplicate names in other parts of the country have anything to do with his original question?

I think I misunderstood the criteria as well.

 

[generalnerd]

The OP mentioned his emphasis was on ‘spin off’ stations, I don’t think a simple renaming, or duplicate names in other parts of the country have anything to do with his original question?

Yeah that would be correct. I can’t think of anything to change to title to though, suggestions are welcome.

I’d also welcome stations that are one station officially but but are infra-structurally/operationally separate (st Pancras Thameslink and victoria being two separate terminals) but that’s a whole other can of worms…

 

[Rail Ranger]

Gloucester Eastgate and Central are shown with separate names in the public timetables up to and including 1975.

It's explained in this article: http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/g/gloucester_eastgate/index.shtml
Note that the running in boards on the disused Gloucester Eastgate platforms just say "Gloucester".

 

[SargeNpton]

Yeah that would be correct. I can’t think of anything to change to title to though, suggestions are welcome.

I’d also welcome stations that are one station officially but but are infra-structurally/operationally separate (st Pancras Thameslink and victoria being two separate terminals) but that’s a whole other can of worms…

St Pancras is three stations operationally: The Thameslink low-level platforms, the EMR platforms and the Southeastern and Eurostar platforms for HS1. Some other dual operation stations that spring to mind: London Bridge, Tamworth, Lichfield Trent Valley, Liverpool Lime Street, Retford, Reading, Liverpool Street, Farringdon, Paddington, Whitechapel.

 

[generalnerd]

St Pancras is three stations operationally: The Thameslink low-level platforms, the EMR platforms and the Southeastern and Eurostar platforms for HS1. Some other dual operation stations that spring to mind: London Bridge, Tamworth, Lichfield Trent Valley, Liverpool Lime Street, Retford, Reading, Liverpool Street, Farringdon, Paddington, Whitechapel.

Out of interest, how is London Bridge two stations?

 

[Howardh]

There are quite a few locations where names have been simplified where only one station now remains. Wolverhampton is no longer High Level now that Low Level is no more for example. Conversely "London" has been added at some stage to the names of most of the various London termini at some stage (London Bridge excepted of course). Understandably this addition has not been mirrored in the names on the Underground.

Bolton had two - Trinity St and Moor Lane, but after the closure of Moor Lane, the "Trinity Street" part became irrelevant. As you say, that must happen a lot - example Bury had "Knowsley St" and (I think) "Bolton St".

 

[Rail Ranger]

The "other" station in Bolton was Great Moor Street.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Out of interest, how is London Bridge two stations?

Historically, in Victorian times, it was essentially two stations, located side-by-side. One handling the South Eastern Railway's traffic and the other The London Brighton & South Coast Railway.

 

[Rescars]

Waterloo had the separate Eurostar platforms for a while. And to what extent should Waterloo East be considered separate from the main station? I have alwys assumed that its platforms are lettered rather than numbered to help prevent passenger confusion.

 

[zwk500]

St Pancras is three stations operationally: The Thameslink low-level platforms, the EMR platforms and the Southeastern and Eurostar platforms for HS1.

4 operationally, the Eurostar and SE platforms are as operationally separate as stations as any of the others. You can't put trains for one set of platform into the other.

Some other dual operation stations that spring to mind: London Bridge, Tamworth, Lichfield Trent Valley, Liverpool Lime Street, Retford, Reading, Liverpool Street, Farringdon, Paddington, Whitechapel.

Also London Vic (2) and Clapham Junction (up to 4 depending on how you define it)

Out of interest, how is London Bridge two stations?

From a routing perspective it's now pretty much 4, with the 3 cannon street platforms, 2 thameslink platforms, 4 Charing Cross platforms and then the 5 terminating platforms, however as there is a certain amount of interlocking possible between the 3 sets of through platform it's generally left as the Brighton/Sussex/Terminating side and the kent/Eastern/through side.

 

[generalnerd]

Waterloo had the separate Eurostar platforms for a while. And to what extent should Waterloo East be considered separate from the main station? I have alwys assumed that its platforms are lettered rather than numbered to help prevent passenger confusion.

That’s what the thread is about (kind of)

I would say it’s separate as it has a different name, but then I class stations that share a name but are vastly different from the main station.

I class 13 and 14 at Manchester Piccadilly as being a separate station (it certainly feels it anyway!) considering how separate it feels from the main station

 

[ANDREW_D_WEBB]

Waterloo had the separate Eurostar platforms for a while. And to what extent should Waterloo East be considered separate from the main station? I have alwys assumed that its platforms are lettered rather than numbered to help prevent passenger confusion.

Suspect the platform letters at Waterloo East are required by the emergency services to avoid confusion in the event of an emergency. The emergency services have a say in deciding things like street names to avoid confusion arising.

One station that has changed its name slightly is Hanwell. Originally Hanwell and Elthorne, which is still on some of the hertiage nameboards at the station.

 

[CaptainHaddock]

Penrith and Oxenholme seem to get rebranded every now and then to indicate their proximity to the Lake District, presumably to foreign tourists.

I think that currently they're known as "Penrith North Lakes" and "Oxenholme Lake District", according to their station signs.

 

[Birkonian]

I understand the OP but still worth mentioning that Bebington and New Ferry was shortened to Bebington some years ago. Locals just call it Beb.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

I class 13 and 14 at Manchester Piccadilly as being a separate station (it certainly feels it anyway!) considering how separate it feels from the main station

You may well do, but they (platforms 13 + 14) are very much part of the Manchester Piccadilly station complex, albeit, very clearly an add-on to the main (terminus) part of the station.

 

[MrToad]

Fleet Pond became Fleet. And then moved about 50 yards.

 

[Rescars]

For the purposes of the OP, how far apart can the stations be? Gatehouse of Fleet had a station on the now sadly closed Portpatrick and Wigtownshire Joint "conveniently located" in the middle of nowhere more than 6 miles distant from the town. During its existence it changed its name seven times, switching between Dromore, Gatehouse and various alternative permutations. During one of the periods when it was called Gatehouse, Tarff station on the GSWR's Kircudbright branch was renamed Gatehouse too. This station was over 7 miles from the town, but in almost the opposite direction. Tarff station had its name changed a couple of times, but this never included Ringford, the village in which it was actually located.

 

[vuzzeho]

New Cross and New Cross Gate? Hackney Downs and Hackney Central? Leyton and Leytonstone (okay that one's a bit of a stretch)? Woolwich and Woolwich Arsenal? Camden Town and Camden Road? Finchley Road and Finchley Road and Frognal?

 

[generalnerd]

I wouldn’t count that at all, as it’s not a different station that acts as part of another or has a slight variation on the name.

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New Cross and New Cross Gate? Hackney Downs and Hackney Central? Leyton and Leytonstone (okay that one's a bit of a stretch)? Woolwich and Woolwich Arsenal? Camden Town and Camden Road? Finchley Road and Finchley Road and Frognal?

These, however, are all pretty good examples.

A big sign that it’s my category is if it either has low level, high level or lettered platforms rather than numbers.

 

[PeterC]

Romford originally had two stations facing each other across South Street distinguished only by the name of the operating company.

 

[Harpo]

There must be loads of High/Low Levels: Willesden, Highgate Road, Bishopsgate.

Neath Low Level. Although I prefer Under Neath.

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Romford originally had two stations facing each other across South Street distinguished only by the name of the operating company.

Tilbury Riverside & Tilbury Marine. Plus Tilbury Docks (Town). I'll not mention East Tilbury. (Ooops).

 

[jimm]

Handborough on the Cotswold Line had the spelling slightly changed in the mid '90s to Hanborough.

This is closer to the actual name of the village in which it is located - Long Hanborough.

When the eastern end of the Oxford Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway opened in 1853, places names in the area (and the rest of the country) were something of a moveable feast, including Hanborough/Handborough.

The OWW went with the spelling including the d, but the version without it then became the one used more generally, including in the world of officialdom, with the railways taking quite a while to catch up.

You get the same thing with nearby Wolvercote - which in the mid-19th century was often spelled without the e on the end, which is how Wolvercot Junction remained on the railway map from 1853 until 2018, when it became Wolvercote North Junction in the Oxford area resignalling scheme.

And in Bletchingdon/Bletchington, near Kidlington, the issue has never been fully resolved, so the road sign at the entrance to one end of the village uses the version with a d and the one at the other end uses the version with a t - locals tend to just call it Bletch.

There are plenty of other examples around the country. While it had been resolved by the time the Oswestry & Newtown Railway got there, Welshpool was originally known as Pool, then from the 15th centre or thereabouts, it was often referred to as Welsh Pool - to distinguish it from Poole in Dorset and Pool (-in-Wharfedale) in Yorkshire. The single word Welshpool seems to have become the preferred version a couple of hundred years ago.