TVM - How much Cash ?

[Butts]

If you found a TVM that would take cash (a feat in itself these days) and selected a Fare that was say £500 plus - one of those crazy priced 1st Anytime Returns....would it take the money?

IE - is there a maximum amount of cash they will take in one transaction

 

[D2022]

I've fed one around 200 squid before and it didn't like it, buzzed and hummed then spat it back out

 

[Butts]

I've fed one around 200 squid before and it didn't like it, buzzed and hummed then spat it back out

Was that a single from Swindon to Bristol

 

[Flamingo]

I've fed one around 200 squid before and it didn't like it, buzzed and hummed then spat it back out

Well, if it was all 5p's and 10p's what did you expect?

 

[Goatboy]

Was that a single from Swindon to Bristol

He had to split twice to get it that cheap

 

[SS4]

I've fed one around 200 squid before and it didn't like it, buzzed and hummed then spat it back out

Obviously the poor TVM doesn't like seafood and who can blame it? Next time try putting in cash

 

[D2022]

Was that a single from Swindon to Bristol

Just to use the toilet on Swindon station actually

But seriously think I was going to Carlisle or something ... Long time ago.

 

[Butts]

Just to use the toilet on Swindon station actually

But seriously think I was going to Carlisle or something ... Long time ago.

Were you putting ten shilling notes in

 

[The Colonel]

If you found a TVM that would take cash (a feat in itself these days) and selected a Fare that was say £500 plus - one of those crazy priced 1st Anytime Returns....would it take the money?

IE - is there a maximum amount of cash they will take in one transaction

AFAIK I don't see why it wouldn't.

Not heard of a limit.

 

[IanXC]

From experience of other types of self service equipment I'd be fairly confident there is a limit. Whether that limit is at a level which could impact on a ticket available from a TVM is another question!

 

[Matt Taylor]

S&B machines have a limit of 60 coins per transaction, or at least they did when they were introduced.

 

[calc7]

Is there a limit to how much cash on-train guards are permitted to carry about their person?
(I am not talking about statutory limits; rather limits imposed by Risk Officers of their company)

 

[transmanche]

S&B machines have a limit of 60 coins per transaction, or at least they did when they were introduced.

The original T&W Metro ticket machines only take about 10 coins and no more than eight of the same type of coin. No notes or credit cards. Thankfully, they are replacing them.

A ticket inspector tried to issue me with a PF once , as I was unable to buy a ticket; I had raided the penny jar to get 11 20p coins to pay for a £2.20 fare. (Otherwise I only had notes and credit/debit card.)

 

[Flamingo]

Is there a limit to how much cash on-train guards are permitted to carry about their person?
(I am not talking about statutory limits; rather limits imposed by Risk Officers of their company)

No. However, in my company we have got the option of paying in cash at any depot during the shift, not just our home one at the end.

 

[reb0118]

No. However, in my company we have got the option of paying in cash at any depot during the shift, not just our home one at the end.

Ever been refused?

 

[Flamingo]

Ever been refused?

Never tried

 

[cdonnigan]

Wouldnt it all depend on the size of the tubes that held the money inside the machine eg if a machine was only able to hold 50 pound in pound coins and had 46 in and your fare was 5 pound it would spit it back out the last pound cause it would go overloaded so you would have to use a smaller denomination.

 

[D2022]

Were you putting ten shilling notes in

Scottish notes it got confused and had a brain meltdown

 

[reb0118]

Were you putting ten shilling notes in

Austria uses the €uro these days.

 

[jon0844]

The coin limit is usually because coins need to be held for a refund, before dropping down to a more secure cash box when the transaction is completed.

I am not sure how they manage notes.

 

[The Colonel]

S&B machines have a limit of 60 coins per transaction, or at least they did when they were introduced.

I'll give that a try on Wednesday then

Wouldnt it all depend on the size of the tubes that held the money inside the machine eg if a machine was only able to hold 50 pound in pound coins and had 46 in and your fare was 5 pound it would spit it back out the last pound cause it would go overloaded so you would have to use a smaller denomination.

The coin limit is usually because coins need to be held for a refund, before dropping down to a more secure cash box when the transaction is completed.

I am not sure how they manage notes.

Neither of the above are fully correct, and I'm not going to reveal figures for security reasons but the figure the OP quotes would be a small amount overall for a large terminal station TVM use - in one transaction may be a different story. Suffice it to say I don't think any forum user will experience a problem with cash/note quantities.

In my previous job a million dollars cash was small change and less than 100 notes was classed as "sundries" We used pump trucks to move bulk stocks and rent-a-crates for "smaller" amounts!

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The Colonel

 

[jopsuk]

Wouldnt it all depend on the size of the tubes that held the money inside the machine eg if a machine was only able to hold 50 pound in pound coins and had 46 in and your fare was 5 pound it would spit it back out the last pound cause it would go overloaded so you would have to use a smaller denomination.

I don't know about TVMs, but I've seen inside other vending machines that have specific slots for each coin type, that change can be doled out from- but also a much more capacious "overflow" bucket, so that this situation is avoided

(incidentally, on the partially-staffed West Anglia line stations the current limit for coin and cash TVM transactions is currently "£0" apparently in an attempt to reduce vandalism to them)

 

[Butts]

(incidentally, on the partially-staffed West Anglia line stations the current limit for coin and cash TVM transactions is currently "£0" apparently in an attempt to reduce vandalism to them)

Well thats as much use as a chocolate teapot

 

[RJ]

Ever been refused?

I used to pay in at depots up and down the country despite being based at a London depot. Well, people do insist on handing over £20 notes for £2 transactions, so killing two birds with one stone when ordering change.

Some cash officers don't like it if you're not at their depot but too bad!

 

[table38]

There is something in the Money Laundering Regulations 2007 about paying with large amounts of cash

 

[Jonny]

There is something in the Money Laundering Regulations 2007 about paying with large amounts of cash

The threshold is £10,000 for that.

 

[richw]

There is something in the Money Laundering Regulations 2007 about paying with large amounts of cash

5000 in aml regs. We have to investigate source of funds any payment over 5k

 

[Clip]

Wouldnt it all depend on the size of the tubes that held the money inside the machine eg if a machine was only able to hold 50 pound in pound coins and had 46 in and your fare was 5 pound it would spit it back out the last pound cause it would go overloaded so you would have to use a smaller denomination.

More and more of them nowadays use big hoppers which can hold a lot more coins then you would think. Also the note boxes can hold a good few grand. But what is in there is all dependant on the size of station and its patronage. Takes a bit for them to actually overflow into the overflow box on some machines.


Oddly enough a PERTIS has room for a good few hundred quid in coins in there too

 

[Butts]

More and more of them nowadays use big hoppers which can hold a lot more coins then you would think. Also the note boxes can hold a good few grand. But what is in there is all dependant on the size of station and its patronage. Takes a bit for them to actually overflow into the overflow box on some machines.


Oddly enough a PERTIS has room for a good few hundred quid in coins in there too

Where is the location of the biggest and lowest taking TVM's in terms of cash on the Network ?

 

[Clip]

Where is the location of the biggest and lowest taking TVM's in terms of cash on the Network ?

Couldnt tell you and I doubt you would ever find out for security reasons.