UK teams

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  1. 102 fan

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    I was reading the Scottish independance thread, and the thought occoured to me, why isn't there a UK football team? Or rugby? And why is it in athletics it's GB, not UK?
     
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    starrymarkb Established Member

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    Rugby has the British and Irish Lions. (OK it does include players from the Republic but IIRC the Irish Rugby Team covers both Northern and Republic)
     
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    Because the Scottish FA, Welsh FA and Northern Ireland FA feel it will lead to the loss of their own national football powers.
     
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    Exactly They are happy to be tiddlers in a jam jar. They maintain the myth that they are "equal" with England so that they can swan about on the world stage. Typical "blazer" mentality. Meanwhile, they are denying their players the opportunity to play at the highest level.
     
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    I was thinking that. It always looks to me like they wouldn't be able to fly the local flag if it was combined. Surely if the UK pooled all it's international level players it would be a good thing?

    (I'm not really a football fan though!)
     
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    The reason being is that there are four separate associations which have existed since the year dot (in football terms.)

    The Football Association : 1863
    The Scottish Football Association : 1873
    The Football Association of Wales : 1876
    The Irish Football Association : 1880 (initially responsible for all-Ireland, NI-only since 1921)

    Football had, like cricket, been organised on a county basis during these formative years, and the national associations grew out of these.

    Oswyntail -- Ryan Giggs may not have embarrassed himself repeatedly at World Cups and Euros like every English player since 1996 has, but he's won Champions Leagues, Premier Leagues, FA Cups, League Cups, the World Club Challenge.... that's hardly being denied playing "at the highest level."

    None of the UK teams have any more right than any other to exist as none of them are internationally independent countries, yet no-one questions England's right to exist. Any UK team would be England in disguise, as the GB Rugby League team used to regularly demonstrate.
     
  8. bb21

    bb21 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Unfortunately England has the largest population out of the four countries and unsurprisingly produces most talent. If there were to be a team GB in football, it is hardly unfair that the majority of the players will probably be from England.

    I'm sorry but the argument about loss of identity doesn't wash. They don't really have the best interests of the UK, as a whole, in heart. (Of course some of them are naturally worried that if they give in, they might lose their seat in FIFA and therefore lose their own jobs.)
     
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    I think that if anyone spoke to the majority of football supporters in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland, they would find little support for a UK team.

    Most of the pushing for such a team seems to come from English fans who, frustrated by their team's inability to win a tournament, think their chances will be better if they could pick players like Charlie Adam and Gareth Bale.
     
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    That's right, I forgot how massive the F.A is. Have a look at head to head results Scotland V England and you'll see how much of a myth it is.........
     
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