Wellglade Group

[M60lad]

I might be wrong here but am I right in thinking that The Comet did used to be every 30mins before Covid? I'm pretty sure the timetable was reduced during Covid and its never been increased since.

 

[43055]

I might be wrong here but am I right in thinking that The Comet did used to be every 30mins before Covid? I'm pretty sure the timetable was reduced during Covid and its never been increased since.

Indeed it was every 30 mins.

Versa 825 has entered service with Notts and Derby on the Rolls Royce shuttles.

 

[tram21]

Yutong E9 Demonstrator 9999 is tracking on the Kinchbus 9 today, a good opportunity for it to stretch its legs, and experience some speed on an EV!

 

[Trainman40083]

So you think that a private landowner will be altruistic and not develop a prime site?

I am sure whoever will opt for the option that gives them the greatest return.

 

[busspotter1]

So you think that a private landowner will be altruistic and not develop a prime site?

Ah yes capitalism at its finest.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Ah yes capitalism at its finest.

Ah yes... Remind me... who owned the old bus station that was redeveloped? Some unscrupulous property tycoon.... I think not

 

[Trainman40083]

Ah yes... Remind me... who owned the old bus station that was redeveloped? Some unscrupulous property tycoon.... I think not

Ah well, the Council couldn't afford to redevelop it, so had to find a company that could and give them a fun sized bus station for nowt.

Let us have a picture of the Yutong E9L demonstrator working for Kinchbus.. My picture of loan 9999 working the 12.00ish route 9 from Nottingham to Loughborough

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Ah well, the Council couldn't afford to redevelop it, so had to find a company that could and give them a fun sized bus station for nowt.

Let us have a picture of the Yutong E9L demonstrator working for Kinchbus.. My picture of loan 9999 working the 12.00ish route 9 from Nottingham to Loughborough

Yes, but you get the point that the council did own the bus station

And yes, talking of fun-sized, that is a rather bijou machine.

 

[Volvo142]

That looks more like mission control, than a ticket machine.

Just on board 767 now and agree that screen looks huge!

And boy, the acceleration and ride quality is superb! Very smooth and not many rattles....ADL could learn a thing or two from taking a look at this 14 year Centro

 

[Trainman40083]

Just on board 767 now and agree that screen looks huge!

And boy, the acceleration and ride quality is superb! Very smooth and not many rattles....ADL could learn a thing or two from taking a look at this 14 year Centro

Every time I go to the Royal, I catch the Royal. Far better buses. You can almost guarantee the journey time as for the most part, it misses many of the holdups on Uttoxeter Road...On Manor Road on Tuesday, even had some turbo boost in the outside lane...But mine was 16 years old, and ex Skylink Derby.

Yes, but you get the point that the council did own the bus station

And yes, talking of fun-sized, that is a rather bijou machine.

Maybe this is more fun sized and bijou.

Well, it now looks like there are 10 ex Stagecoach London Optare Solos dotted about. All said to be for TM Travel.

 

[bringiton]

Looks like 811 has been painted into TB red. 712 is also at LM waiting for repaint, still currently in mango parked at the side of the depot

One of the 105/6 mickleover's has mostly been branded too with 7/8 minutes on the side

 

[m79900]

Looks like 811 has been painted into TB red. 712 is also at LM waiting for repaint, still currently in mango parked at the side of the depot

One of the 105/6 mickleover's has mostly been branded too with 7/8 minutes on the side

Is 712 just getting a fresh coat of Mango, or something else?

 

[zkyx02]

Is 712 just getting a fresh coat of Mango, or something else?

Repainted into mango, the body work & state of the paint from the stint at Derby is quite bad.

 

[Davidsb3]

Most people I know have stopped using it, due to unreliability.


Yet when I see them, south of Alfreton they look fairly empty. But remember this. Just because a bus is fairly full, does not mean it is making a profit. Is it covering direct costs? Overheads too?


Yes, but a lessee has the Riverside site, and can put what they like on the site, subject to planning permission. So it won't be a bus station


There is only one Wellglade bus being converted to straight electric at the moment.

Yutong E9L demo is out today on route 12, tracking as 9999

Very much so with the comet the main passenger trafic is mainly Alfreton - Chesterfield south of Alfreton the route shares too much with the nines so any passenger load really goes to the Nines

Repainted into mango, the body work & state of the paint from the stint at Derby is quite bad.

Our nickname for 712 was 50 shades of mango as there was at least like 3 different shades of green and orange on it.

I might be wrong here but am I right in thinking that The Comet did used to be every 30mins before Covid? I'm pretty sure the timetable was reduced during Covid and its never been increased since.

That is correct but the passenger demand has never come back after covid so there has been no need to revert it back.

 

[Mr TrainGuy]

Our nickname for 712 was 50 shades of mango as there was at least like 3 different shades of green and orange on it.

Can understand why too, just looking at it there seemed to be an abundance of different green shades just on the back... just like they took their pick of any spare panels they had and whacked them on it!

One of the 105/6 mickleover's has mostly been branded too with 7/8 minutes on the side

Wouldn't be surprised if one of these got sent back to Derby soon to cover for 314 in the short term, then the full 7-8 minute frequency kicking in when that returns and the other repainted one is transported to Derby.

 

[Trainman40083]

Not a good day today in Derby. There is now no service on the 6.2 because as Lily at Trentbarton says "they have both broken". Abus taken off Mickleover 328 to cover for 6.1. I helped a lady in Allestree to see what her next bus would be. Even gave her the registration number. Now people mention 712. Wasn't that the one with the Villager yellow panel? I wonder how long 314 will be away? Crash victim Solo SR 504 Rushcliffe Villager, was back in service on Wednesday. Re the Comet. If I was in Ripley heading back to Derby, I'd catch a 9.3 if it turned up first as the journey time was similar. I guess Comet going via Little Eaton may also narrow the difference. As for Derby to Chesterfield. I now use the train.

 

[derbybusdepot]

Not a good day today in Derby. There is now no service on the 6.2 because as Lily at Trentbarton says "they have both broken". Abus taken off Mickleover 328 to cover for 6.1. I helped a lady in Allestree to see what her next bus would be. Even gave her the registration number. Now people mention 712. Wasn't that the one with the Villager yellow panel? I wonder how long 314 will be away? Crash victim Solo SR 504 Rushcliffe Villager, was back in service on Wednesday. Re the Comet. If I was in Ripley heading back to Derby, I'd catch a 9.3 if it turned up first as the journey time was similar. I guess Comet going via Little Eaton may also narrow the difference. As for Derby to Chesterfield. I now use the train.

Still manage to put out 5 buses on x38 though. They shouldn't be allowed to increase frequencies/register new services until reliability has been vastly improved.

I guess increasing frequency on comet would take custom from the nines at the southern end of the route, and perhaps the northern end doesn't warrant an increased frequency.

Why do Trent not borrow notts and derby vehicles to reduce what must be a huge amount of lost mileage?

 

[Trainman40083]

Still manage to put out 5 buses on x38 though. They shouldn't be allowed to increase frequencies/register new services until reliability has been vastly improved.

I guess increasing frequency on comet would take custom from the nines at the southern end of the route, and perhaps the northern end doesn't warrant an increased frequency.

Why do Trent not borrow notts and derby vehicles to reduce what must be a huge amount of lost mileage?

There seems to be an awful lot of traffic on the A61 between Alfreton and Chesterfield. Will get busier with ever more housing appearing . I did wonder if the Hulleys 55 was taking some business, especially with their new 74 plate buses. If you wanted Chesterfield, and you had no faith in the Comet turning up, then you'd just catch the first bus, even if it took longer (even more so on cold or wet days). Maybe access to tracking systems has made that even more likely. Likewise on the Sixes, you'd catch the TransPeak if it was the right stops. You know, at some point it would be fascinating to understand "how do you live your life post COVID?". What do you do differently? What made you change? I mentioned to a local Councillor that hardly anyone I knew now shopped in Derby now. He asked many people he knew, and got the same feedback. So, post COVID will impact such as Trentbarton. A fair chunk of people have walked away, and now live life differently.

 

[m79900]

Not a good day today in Derby. There is now no service on the 6.2 because as Lily at Trentbarton says "they have both broken". Abus taken off Mickleover 328 to cover for 6.1. I helped a lady in Allestree to see what her next bus would be. Even gave her the registration number. Now people mention 712. Wasn't that the one with the Villager yellow panel? I wonder how long 314 will be away? Crash victim Solo SR 504 Rushcliffe Villager, was back in service on Wednesday. Re the Comet. If I was in Ripley heading back to Derby, I'd catch a 9.3 if it turned up first as the journey time was similar. I guess Comet going via Little Eaton may also narrow the difference. As for Derby to Chesterfield. I now use the train.

The Sixes Versas have got markedly worse in the past six months, only half are in service at the minute, with 2 Volvos, and ADl and a Mango Versa all helping out. Maybe if the Two gets new Evoras, the Sixes could get the Eclipse 3s.

 

[Trainman40083]

The Sixes Versas have got markedly worse in the past six months, only half are in service at the minute, with 2 Volvos, and ADl and a Mango Versa all helping out. Maybe if the Two gets new Evoras, the Sixes could get the Eclipse 3s.

Maybe the Versas were never the right bus for the route. Of course 836 is off due to the collision in Duffield. Mango 328 got taken off the Mickleover. The 6.2 service got pulled. I guess shoppers from Belper to Derby will use the train or Transpeak

 

[bringiton]

Still manage to put out 5 buses on x38 though. They shouldn't be allowed to increase frequencies/register new services until reliability has been vastly improved.

No spares needed for the route today so it doesnt really matter.

The Sixes Versas have got markedly worse in the past six months, only half are in service at the minute, with 2 Volvos, and ADl and a Mango Versa all helping out. Maybe if the Two gets new Evoras, the Sixes could get the Eclipse 3s.

Hopefully not, the B8's would no doubt be just as unreliable for the route. The two isn't even that challenging of a route for vehicles and the reliability is bad so I couldn't see them trying that.

Of course 836 is off due to the collision in Duffield.

Quite a few vehicles off due to collisions at the moment

Not to mention, most of the derbys spares have been on hourly services with a few breakdowns (827 and 847) and a few spares off, its not like they can preform miracles

 

[Trainman40083]

No spares needed for the route today so it doesnt really matter.

Hopefully not, the B8's would no doubt be just as unreliable for the route. The two isn't even that challenging of a route for vehicles and the reliability is bad so I couldn't see them trying that.


Quite a few vehicles off due to collisions at the moment

Not to mention, most of the derbys spares have been on hourly services with a few breakdowns (827 and 847) and a few spares off, its not like they can preform miracles

Did 827 break down on the Red Arrow? Either that or it parked at the QMC.

 

[bringiton]

Did 827 break down on the Red Arrow? Either that or it parked at the QMC.

I'd assume broke down, though traffic was quite bad in nottingham today so anything could of happened

 

[derbybusdepot]

No spares needed for the route today so it doesnt really matter.

Hopefully not, the B8's would no doubt be just as unreliable for the route. The two isn't even that challenging of a route for vehicles and the reliability is bad so I couldn't see them trying that.


Quite a few vehicles off due to collisions at the moment

Not to mention, most of the derbys spares have been on hourly services with a few breakdowns (827 and 847) and a few spares off, its not like they can preform miracles

I guess it would be a miracle if they operated all their registered services.

It's a poor show when any operator fails to operate so much on one day. Especially when they have a garage full of notts and derby vehicles which could be utilised.

 

[Trainman40083]

I guess it would be a miracle if they operated all their registered services.

It's a poor show when any operator fails to operate so much on one day. Especially when they have a garage full of notts and derby vehicles which could be utilised.

The trouble is, it all paints a picture that public transport (and I include rail) is unreliable. And it has never been easier to avoid it. That said, I was walking locally, and I came across a woman at a bus stop. Even from distance, she had that look that she had been there longer than she wanted to be. I won't repeat her words. I just stopped, showed empathy and said (having checked Bustimes) "Your bus will arrive at exactly 10.00". And as if by magic, it was.. But nowadays where I live it is far less common to see anyone waiting.

 

[zkyx02]

The trouble is, it all paints a picture that public transport (and I include rail) is unreliable.

this is why I’m thankful to be on Arriva Derbys network, other than the odd breakdown the services is top tier, just wish buses ran a little later on a Friday/Sat.

 

[Skymonster]

this is why I’m thankful to be on Arriva Derbys network, other than the odd breakdown the services is top tier, just wish buses ran a little later on a Friday/Sat.

I largely agree with that. There was a time when Arriva Derby seemed to be a basket case and I looked enviously at TrentBarton’s operation. Now though, Arriva has upped its game - sure there are sometimes delays (due traffic etc.) and some services are chronically overloaded (2A peak times) but otherwise in the context of the services I use Arriva seems to be way more reliable than TB.

Its a shame and I don’t understand why the unreliability at TB has been allowed to continue and not be addressed. It means that now where I can I avoid TB and use the train instead (with a railcard train can compete on price on some trips too, and it will be even more competitive when the bus far price cap is raised).

 

[zkyx02]

I largely agree with that. There was a time when Arriva Derby seemed to be a basket case

Oh I remember it well, the current management seem to be really turning it around.

some services are chronically overloaded (2A peak times)

yeah the 2As do suffer, Chellaston seems to be a hub for roadworks & temp traffic lights at the moment causing chaos, I believe deckers have been looked into previously but the daytime loadings didn’t justify it, although I think it should be looked into again.

It means that now where I can I avoid TB and use the train instead (with a railcard train can compete on price on some trips too, and it will be even more competitive when the bus far price cap is raised).

it’s a shame the 904 isn’t a public service, would be an easy way to get to Burton.

 

[tram21]

it’s a shame the 904 isn’t a public service, would be an easy way to get to Burton

Whats the 904?

 

[43055]

Whats the 904?

Royal Derby Hospital - Uni of Nottingham service. Run by Arriva under the hopperbus brand.