West Yorkshire Train and Bus Day Rover

[TUC]

Does anyone know if West Yorkshire Metro's Train and Bus Day Rover can be bought in advance or can only be bought on the day? I can see there was a previous closed thread where some people had made references to only having seen scratch-off stock dated up to 2012 and Metro's webpage ( http://www.wymetro.com/TicketsAndPasses/moresavings/WestYorkshireDayRover/#wheretobuydayrover ) doesn't really make it clear. It states where you can buy them but not whether its only on the day of travel.

I have a season ticket as far as Leeds and it would suit my arrangements to stay on the same train beyond there rather than having to get off just to buy a Rover so would prefer to buy it in advance.

 

[Deerfold]

You can buy on special rail stock pre-printed with the date you wish to use them from any staffed station in West Yorkshire. These are wasted if you don't use them.

You can buy scratch-off ones in advance from Bus stations and post offices. I've several Adult and Family ones with dates up to 2015.

Train-only day rovers should be available from any station and can be produced by many on-train staff.

Annoyingly stations no longer sell the scratch-off version (they did when it was the only version available and the even older version which was along the same lines as the Danish Klipperkort and was validated in "Saverstrip" machines)

 

[John @ home]

You can buy scratch-off ones in advance from Bus stations and post offices.

The scratch-off version is also available from the Tourist Information Office at Leeds Station.

 

[Deerfold]

The scratch-off version is also available from the Tourist Information Office at Leeds Station.

This is true, but boy do they make a meal of selling them. You can't just nip in and get one. They have to record the number of each one they sell for some reason.

 

[TUC]

Annoyingly stations no longer sell the scratch-off version (they did when it was the only version available and the even older version which was along the same lines as the Danish Klipperkort and was validated in "Saverstrip" machines)

I'd forgotten about Saverstrip.
Memories of student days in Bradford!

 

[radamfi]

They Day Rover was quite bizarre as there was only one clip on the ticket. On the second and subsequent bus/trains you just showed it to the driver/conductor.

"Ker-Ching a Day Out! Ker-Ching a Day Rover!"

 

[Deerfold]

They Day Rover was quite bizarre as there was only one clip on the ticket. On the second and subsequent bus/trains you just showed it to the driver/conductor.

"Ker-Ching a Day Out! Ker-Ching a Day Rover!"

And was great so long as you didn't use a machine coded with the wrong date...

Will be doing it in Copenhagen on Friday

 

[455driver]

I'd forgotten about Saverstrip.
Memories of student days in Bradford!

What splitting the used end to add in a bit of card to get a free ride, day after day after day and just hope the driver didnt see the mass of ink printed on that ticket.

 

[radamfi]

And was great so long as you didn't use a machine coded with the wrong date...

Will be doing it in Copenhagen on Friday

It is amazing that Denmark is still using the machines. Last time I looked a couple of years ago, most if not all of Denmark was still using it, not just Copenhagen. It was claimed in West Yorkshire and Greater Manchester (who used the similar ClipperCard system) that the machines were unreliable and parts were no longer available. Obviously not the case.
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Picture of used Saverstrip (12 for the price of 10)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/manxphil/6494391613/

Some old ClipperCards were on eBay:

http://www.auctionsplash.com/UserImages/jrs232/jrs232_634973150775312500-0.jpg

The ClipperCard was only valid on buses.

The Standard ClipperCard gave 10 trips for the price of 9.

The Off-Peak ClipperCard gave 10 trips for the price of 8. Of particular use was the Any Distance Off-Peak Clippercard which gave 10 trips for something like 37p each.

The Teen Travel ClipperCard gave 10 trips for the price of 7.

 

[Deerfold]

It is amazing that Denmark is still using the machines. Last time I looked a couple of years ago, most if not all of Denmark was still using it, not just Copenhagen. It was claimed in West Yorkshire and Greater Manchester (who used the similar ClipperCard system) that the machines were unreliable and parts were no longer available. Obviously not the case.
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Picture of used Saverstrip (12 for the price of 10)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/manxphil/6494391613/

Some old ClipperCards were on eBay:

http://www.auctionsplash.com/UserImages/jrs232/jrs232_634973150775312500-0.jpg

The ClipperCard was only valid on buses.

The Standard ClipperCard gave 10 trips for the price of 9.

The Off-Peak ClipperCard gave 10 trips for the price of 8. Of particular use was the Any Distance Off-Peak Clippercard which gave 10 trips for something like 37p each.

The Teen Travel ClipperCard gave 10 trips for the price of 7.

I think after bus deregulation it became harder to maintain the machines - and the bus companies started moving buses around between fleets more.

The Danish machines do seem to be lighter and less "clunky" and so may not use the same parts...happened to come across my own Saverstrip machine a couple of weeks ago that I got as a present some years ago (some time after they stopped being used). I thought they stopped being used after the larger bus companies in West Yorkshire pulled out of the scheme citing fraudulent use.

Denmark is (slowly) moving to a smartcard system - the clippy tickets were going to not be sold after June this year and valid for a further year but this has been extended.

Going back even futher Saverstrips gave 12 tickets for the price of 9 (came across a couple of half used ones a couple of weeks ago).

 

[Tetchytyke]

They have to record the number of each one they sell for some reason.

It must be a WYMetro rule, as the post office in Queensbury make just as much a meal of it.

If only the rail ticket stock ones worked in the barriers at Leeds

 

[Deerfold]

It must be a WYMetro rule, as the post office in Queensbury make just as much a meal of it.

If only the rail ticket stock ones worked in the barriers at Leeds

The post office in Ilkley and the Bus Station at Keighley seem to have no problem just getting the next one out of the rubber band full and taking your money.

I've had no problem with the rail stock ones in the gates at Leeds. Admittedly I don't get them very often.

 

[noddingdonkey]

Is it still the case that conductors will only sell the Train version of a DayRover because they can't print it on the special stock so bus drivers frequently refused to accept what they thought was a train ticket?

I presume with the advent of PlusBus being presented with a train ticket is more common and they may have changed that policy?

 

[Deerfold]

You can't buy the bus and train (including family) versions on trains - they have to be on the special stock.

 

[TUC]

You can't buy the bus and train (including family) versions on trains - they have to be on the special stock.

So what happens for passengers at a station with no ticket office?

It's difficult to see why they need special stock. After all, Plusbus tickets are printed on regular stock and bus drivers recognise these.

 

[Deerfold]

So what happens for passengers at a station with no ticket office?

It's difficult to see why they need special stock. After all, Plusbus tickets are printed on regular stock and bus drivers recognise these.

Like me? They have to buy in advance.

I discovered this when my wife and I tried to buy a Family Dayrover on the train some years ago.

I wonder if the requirement for special stock is to aid audits of how many are issued? Only a thought.

I'd be quite happy to give up the special stock and be able to get them on the train (or from a TVM - which don't sell train-only ones either).