Minimal sop to Bradford.What is the Bradford-Leeds electrification in aid of? The Calder route goes two ways, with no wires until Victoria or Preston... seems random. Unless part of something else un-articulated.
What is the Bradford-Leeds electrification in aid of? The Calder route goes two ways, with no wires until Victoria or Preston... seems random. Unless part of something else un-articulated.
Exactly my thinking too.Minimal sop to Bradford.
You need to start Calder Valley route electrification some where without getting in the way of most of it being the TRU works diversionary route for the next decade...Exactly my thinking too.
Or (trying to look at it positively) getting the complicated (and expensive) bit through in this plan - leaving a "no brainer" gap in the middle for a future announcement once actually doing the work doesn't clash with the "main" TP work.Minimal sop to Bradford.
You need to start Calder Valley route electrification some where without getting in the way of most of it being the TRU works diversionary route for the next decade...
Or (trying to look at it positively) getting the complicated (and expensive) bit through in this plan - leaving a "no brainer" gap in the middle for a future announcement once actually doing the work doesn't clash with the "main" TP work.
An attempt to reduce journey times with an electric shuttle between the two.What is the Bradford-Leeds electrification in aid of? The Calder route goes two ways, with no wires until Victoria or Preston... seems random. Unless part of something else un-articulated.
It isn't for any sort of diversion. It is purely a speed issue between Leeds and Bradford. As a byproduct, it may well supplement the work of the WYCA Mass Transit proposal.It seems quite token, even for this mob. I can understand diversionary, but surely needs the whole route.
By far the most likely answerMinimal sop to Bradford.
This would make some sense, since there will be wires and there's no reversal. It will, of course, depend on how much capacity NPR can squeeze out of Leeds eastward. Another option would be bi-mode London services via Hambleton junction, if those ever materialise. With the upgraded ECML and no reversal, it would be jolly quick.You could run Bradford-Leeds-York
It's a climb from both Bradford and Leeds (as opposed to the fairly level Airedale route), so maybe something to do with that??What is the Bradford-Leeds electrification in aid of? The Calder route goes two ways, with no wires until Victoria or Preston... seems random. Unless part of something else un-articulated.
That's covered by the WYCA mass transit proposals, as opposed to heavy rail.No doubt wires from Leeds to Bradford Interchange will get the Cross Bradford Link people going again...
Bradford council would surely propose battery powered passenger road - railers to get between interchange and forster sq and then wonder why it wouldn't happen.No doubt wires from Leeds to Bradford Interchange will get the Cross Bradford Link people going again...
I have a feeling that it has literally been included with no strategic objective whatsoever and is there purely as you say because Ministers felt that something needed to be offered to Bradford.Minimal sop to Bradford.
Exactly how it should be. Bradford Crossrail is the Crayonista project that will never die.That's covered by the WYCA mass transit proposals, as opposed to heavy rail.
The same goes for Manchester, which has a serviceable rapid transit system in place of a crossrail. If only it had integrated ticketing...Exactly how it should be. Bradford Crossrail is the Crayonista project that will never die.
Battery? That's no good, it needs to be some sort of magical future-fuel surely!Bradford council would surely propose battery powered passenger road - railers to get between interchange and forster sq and then wonder why it wouldn't happen.
Probably keeping SELRAP company...Exactly how it should be. Bradford Crossrail is the Crayonista project that will never die.
Though once you've done the TPE line via Huddersfield and you start doing the Calder Valley, filling in the gaps (Heaton Lodge to Milner Royd junctions plus the Bradley and Salterhebble curves) is a pretty quick win.Probably keeping SELRAP company...
On-topic, I did suggest in the other thread that starting electrification from Halifax, with a few speed improvements, would help (Hell-)Hull-Halifax services. I don't think Halifax-Huddersfield wiring will happen until it absolutely has to - it doesn't have the traffic.
They should be using Bradford too for diversionary purposes when Mirfield is closed.You need to start Calder Valley route electrification some where without getting in the way of most of it being the TRU works diversionary route for the next decade...
What is the Bradford-Leeds electrification in aid of? The Calder route goes two ways, with no wires until Victoria or Preston... seems random. Unless part of something else un-articulated.
I agree with that.Perhaps when/if everything is electrified the York and Hull stoppers could start from Bradford? The Calder Valley services could then skip New Pudsey and Bramley, reducing journey time.
So:
2x Bradford - stops - Leeds - stops - York/Hull
2x Bradford - stops - Leeds
4x Calder Valley - Bradford - non-stop - Leeds
By far the most likely answer