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Discussion in 'Railtours & Preservation' started by Steam loco, 21 Sep 2018.
Which is your favourite new build
The Ivatt 10000
FLIRTs for Greater Anglia.
My new bathroom.
Serious answer in order of interest:
The thing I’m most looking forward to seeing in the future though, and I know it’s not new build, but it feels like it. Is the class 28 CoBo running again.
Almost as if you read my mind, Cowley lol I'd also add the Ivatt 10000 to the list personally.
Heading overseas (if allowed), the PRR T1 5550 is right at the top of my list.
LMS 1000 (pity it won't be mainline certified)
I hope both p2 get completed
6880 Betton Grange
Yes, there are two P2 New builds - "Cock o' the North" by the Darlington P2 Locomotive Trust , which started in 1998 and now has a set of frames plus some more castings etc. This is to be the later A4 fronted P2 with walschaerts valve gear. Then there is the "Prince of Wales" by the P2 Steam Locomotive Trust/A1 Steam Locomotive Trust started in 2013 - which is 50% complete.
The new build that I actually support is the 567 GCR 4-4-0 Victorian Express engine.
I wasn't aware both versions were being constructed. Excellent news!
The P2s will look good, especially with the differing front ends. I've never been a fan of the original Patriot (and Royal Scot), with the huge untapered boiler and tiny chimney; I would have preferred the new Patriot to have been built in the rebuilt condition.
As for 'new' ones, I'd like to see a Drummond LSWR 700 class 'Black Motor'. An attractive design, and a useful locomotive for a preserved line, it's a shame that none was preserved.
I wish there was a Class 41 NBL warship being considered.
is there a list of new builds to choose from anywhere? Also, can we include conversions? Of the top of my head I'd say the Standard tanks.
Would there really be sufficient interest ?
I seriously doubt that the vast sums required to do new builds will see many come to fruition but i think the one which is more likely and would be of greatest interest to me would be the baby Deltic
I fink they're shud be a new APT set built and run at 125 mph
As above class 370 (APT) and class 22 North British diesel hydraulics
Doubt it, but they are unique.
Shouldn't be too hard to get the current one running. What we do need though are more traliers for the set.
I suppose the 370 (APT) set cannot be considered a "New Build"....but is it still in the NRM collection or has the ownership been transferred to Crewe Heritage? I would love to see it running again though!
......and should this go into the "electric loco" thread??
They sucked though...
How to take an interesting alternative traction idea and remove all the differences that were supposed to be advantageous, so that what you're left with retains only the differences that made it awkward. And have it built by a company that doesn't understand metric measurements and doesn't realise you can't make high-precision machinery with only a hammer and cold chisel.
The new-construction hydraulic project that I'd like to see undertaken would be the 4000hp(?) "super-Western" that never made it beyond the idea stage.
Like most early diesels they weren't the greatest although not generally as bad as made out. Laira had them running quite smoothly near the end from what I've read.
The class 22 or 29 were equally not very successful but they still retain an interest.
A super western would be nice as would a super Deltic!
Are you being paid by Stadler to advertise their products? If not, why not? You'd be due an absolute fortune by now!
Yes, but it was the conceptual suckitude I was thinking of. What the WR wanted was not only something that didn't have the electrics they had found awkward on the gas turbines, but also a lightweight machine with a low axle load and a high power to weight ratio - exactly what things like the Class 40 weren't. What they got, as far as the second part was concerned, was exactly the kind of lumbering behemoth they were keen to avoid, 40 tons overweight and with a couple of dead axles to take the extra weight so it didn't even provide any advantage in terms of improved traction. Not only were they a dead end that wasted money on something antithetical to the desired spec, they delayed the whole hydraulic programme and also gave the anti-hydraulic faction a boost to their arguments - fallacious, but when has that ever mattered. They were something the WR never wanted in the first place but were forced to take by higher management.
To be sure, the lardiness turned out to be paradoxically advantageous compared to the "proper" Warships when the failure to get rid of unfitted goods wagons caused the requirement for high braking force from the loco to persist... but I hardly think that "counts", since the continued existence of unfitted freight was a nationwide drag on the whole network.
I do like the look of them. Never actually heard a recording of one though, don't think any exist.
Wasn't a class 29 replica being considered at one point? I seem to recall suitable bogies and engine had been found for it.