Whitebus, Motherwell

[christopherrfc]

Does anyone know anything about this operator.

Registered​

KIERAN WHITE
Route: Greenside Garden Centre, Newhouse, Motherwell to Greenside Garden Centre, Newhouse, Motherwell via Newarthill, Carfin, New Stevenston, Craigneuk
Service number: 91 (91a)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 15 Jan 2024

 

[Volvodart]

This may help:-

www.whitebusscotland.co.uk

Hi Folks NEW BUS SERVICE The... - WHITEbus Scotland

Hi Folks NEW BUS SERVICE The registration of the new 91 and 91a bus service has now passed its first stage of its registration with SPT and its now...

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Hi Folks
NEW BUS SERVICE
The registration of the new 91 and 91a bus service has now passed its first stage of its registration with SPT and its now with the Traffic Commissioner for Scotland for final approval.
We are hoping to get started on Monday 15th January.
Every 30 mins from 0630 for Mon-Fri
Every 45 mins from 0730 for Sat & Sun
I am proposing to hold PUBLIC MEETINGS at The Club Newarthill on the following dates & times. ALL WELCOME !!!
Thurs 14th Dec / 1pm-2pm and 7pm-8pm
Thurs 28th Dec / 1pm-2pm and 7pm-8pm
Thurs 11th Jan / 1pm-2pm and 7pm-8pm
I'll be able to answer all of your questions at these meetings.
# We will accept all concession cards in the same way that all other bus operators do.
# We will accept debit cards
# We will give change
Greenside Garden Centre
Newarthill
Carfin
New Stevenston
Jerviston
Motherwell
Craigneuk
Wishaw General
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE share with everyone you know who may want to use a local bus service.
Thanks
Kieran

 

[markymark2000]

Another operator within Strathclyde, how on earth does Strathclyde have so many independents, especially new/young independents. Yet elsewhere in the UK, commercial routes are being cut and independents stopping operating as many routes, especially commercial ones. There is definately something odd going on in the Strathclyde area which makes the operating environment so much better for independents.

 

[Observer]

The service started on Monday and the timetables are available here:

91 - Newhouse - Wishaw General Hospital

91A - Newhouse - Wishaw General Hospital

 

[Trnsprt4Sctlnd]

Another operator within Strathclyde, how on earth does Strathclyde have so many independents, especially new/young independents. Yet elsewhere in the UK, commercial routes are being cut and independents stopping operating as many routes, especially commercial ones. There is definately something odd going on in the Strathclyde area which makes the operating environment so much better for independents.

Presumably it comes down to money.

Many of the small operators around Lanarkshire are less bothered about profit margins and have lower operating costs (lower wages, smaller buses etc).

By soaking up the smaller SPT routes they can maintain a private company and don’t need to go out of business, even if that business isn’t exactly a particularly well oiled machine.

 

[JKP]

I recall Kieran White being involved with bus operations previously in the west of Scotland. Do these new routes add anything to bus service provision or are they simply copies of another operators routes?

 

[overthewater]

It does give Newarthill a direct link to Wishaw Hospital. Maybe they should extend to Chaplehall and Airdrie to give more new links

 

[mabosh]

I was in Motherwell on Monday (for the first time in years).

Didn't realise it was the first day of operation. These were the two Solos running on it. Seemed to be getting some passengers and both vehicles were pretty tidy.

 

[lastbus]

I was in Motherwell on Monday (for the first time in years).

Didn't realise it was the first day of operation. These were the two Solos running on it. Seemed to be getting some passengers and both vehicles were pretty tidy.

Been using a transit minibus on it at times. Not very user friendly.

 

[Observer]

Been using a transit minibus on it at times. Not very user friendly.

They bought four Solos for the route so assume there have been breakdowns going on and that's what has been available to replace it. The timetable needs three buses on it Monday to Friday and two at the weekend.

 

[lastbus]

They bought four Solos for the route so assume there have been breakdowns going on and that's what has been available to replace it. The timetable needs three buses on it Monday to Friday and two at the weekend.

Bus is not DDA compliant nor does it have a destination screen so shouldn’t be on a service route.

 

[Observer]

Bus is not DDA compliant nor does it have a destination screen so shouldn’t be on a service route.

It's not a SPT contract and 16 seaters are exempt from PSVAR. Anyway it was clearly a stop gap to keep a service running rather than it being skipped out. Maybe they will buy a fifth service bus at some point.

 

[lastbus]

It's not a SPT contract and 16 seaters are exempt from PSVAR. Anyway it was clearly a stop gap to keep a service running rather than it being skipped out. Maybe they will buy a fifth service bus at some point.

It has a sliding entry door and should not be used on a service route. Just another cowboy operator.

 

[markymark2000]

It has a sliding entry door and should not be used on a service route. Just another cowboy operator.

Why shouldn't it be used? Many community bus operators run minibuses with sliding entry doors on their open public services.

 

[lastbus]

Why shouldn't it be used? Many community bus operators run minibuses with sliding entry doors on their open public services.

Because it does not have a destination screen and is not exactly suitable for the elderly.

 

[JKP]

Because it does not have a destination screen and is not exactly suitable for the elderly.

A destination screen is not mandatory. A board in the window showing the destination will suffice. Minibuses are extensively used by community bus, Councils and charities to carry elderly people, so do not understand your reasons for saying they are not suitable.

 

[Observer]

They have a Facebook page talking about buses having issues and the timetable having to be reduced.

Bus 91 - WHITEBus Scotland | Motherwell

Bus 91 - WHITEBus Scotland, Motherwell, North Lanarkshire. 227 likes. A new local service bus for the people of North Lanarkshire. Newhouse to Wishaw General and villages

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Good evening,
After 1 week of operating the 91/91a we have come across a lot of challenges.
Our main issue has been the buses I bought. My original idea was to buy cheaper buses from a local supplier and then upgrade them after a few months. That hasn’t worked and I’m currently trying to buy 2 more buses.
For the meantime whilst we repair the buses to allow us to do our best try to operate a service, we will operate a reduced service which offers a bus every 45 minutes from 0700.
91 service
Departing from Greenside Garden Centre
0700
0745
0830
0915 - 91a
1000
1045
1130 - 91a
1215
1300 (1.00)
1345 (1.45) - 91a
1430 (2.30)
1515 (3.15)
1600 (4.00) - 91a
1645 (4.45)
1730 (5.30)
1815 (6.15) - 91a
1900 (7.00)
1945 (7.45)
Departing from Wishaw General
0745
0830
0915
1000 - 91a
1045
1130
1215 - 91a
1300 (1.00)
1345 (1.45)
1430 (2.30) - 91a
1515 (3.15)
1600 (4.00)
1645 (4.45) - 91a
1730 (5.30)
1815 (6.15)
1900 (7.00) - 91a
1945 (7.45)
2030 (8.30)
Thank you and please share with your friends,

 

[lastbus]

They have a Facebook page talking about buses having issues and the timetable having to be reduced.

Bus 91 - WHITEBus Scotland | Motherwell

Bus 91 - WHITEBus Scotland, Motherwell, North Lanarkshire. 227 likes. A new local service bus for the people of North Lanarkshire. Newhouse to Wishaw General and villages

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Going against the registration of the service. I hope they have traffic commisioners approval.

 

[RustySpoons]

That timetable is difficult to follow. If you want to know what time the 91 will run from West Hamilton St around 11ish, how long will it take to work it out using the very limited info?


Image shows a screenshot of the 91/91a timetable. Shows the times of the first and last buses, but not much inbetween.

 

[Motherwell241]

Despite having seen some new buses they were back to a minibus today.

 

[Dens Lad]

Heard a rumbling that the 91 is getting pulled. No sure when.

 

[jazza374]

Listed on VOSA as a timetable change effective 15th April.

Pardon Our Interruption

• Registration numberPM2064275/1
• Licence NumberPM2064275

• Variation number1
• StatusRegistered
• Service number.91, 91a
• Service typeNormal Stopping
• Start pointGreenside Garden Centre, Newhouse, Motherwell
• Finish pointGreenside Garden Centre, Newhouse, Motherwell
• ViaNewarthill, Carfin, New Stevenston, Craigneuk
• Date received29 Jan 2024
• Effective date15 Apr 2024
• End date

 

[Observer]

Heard a rumbling that the 91 is getting pulled. No sure when.

Would assume there would be some changes considering JMB's 42 is covering some of the route now, although just an hourly service. Not sure if it has made much impact though.

 

[Dens Lad]

As I said earlier I heard they are making a plan to stop running this route. Wait and see what happens but you heard it here first!

 

[Motherwell241]

Any time I have seen it about motherwell it has been carrying fresh air, with the name of the previous operation of the bus in the side

 

[Dens Lad]

Think Kieran has major issues as another bus broke down yesterday which will affect his run even more. Not the first break down this year either. Doubt the route will last much longer.

 

[overthewater]

Any time I have seen it about motherwell it has been carrying fresh air, with the name of the previous operation of the bus in the side

What has happened on this route? it used to be highly competitive.

 

[Observer]

Think Kieran has major issues as another bus broke down yesterday which will affect his run even more. Not the first break down this year either. Doubt the route will last much longer.

They have not had the best of luck with buses since they started, they bought four Optare Solos to run their timetable (3 required for weekdays and 2 at weekends) and have had various problems since getting them.

Then followed two E200s which as you can see, have gone awry too. They're not going to keep on buying more buses, it would be interesting to see if the April timetable reduces the requirements if they still can run by then.

You can see their Facebook profile which alerted people that the service would run restricted, if at all. They only got those E200s last month too. We will have to see if they can get things fixed up or not.

Bus 91 - WHITEBus Scotland | Motherwell

Bus 91 - WHITEBus Scotland, Motherwell, North Lanarkshire. 227 likes. A new local service bus for the people of North Lanarkshire. Newhouse to Wishaw General and villages

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Good Morning
Unfortunately we had a major mechanical issue with a bus last night and it had to be recovered. It is a major repair and will be off the road for some time.
We will have a restricted service today, if at all.
I really do apologise.

 

[Dens Lad]

You get what you pay for I suppose. If you buy biscuit tins then they won’t last long. No sure if the Comisioner would take that as a reason for no running a route as registered. Might be in for a wee visit to see her?

 

[Observer]

You get what you pay for I suppose. If you buy biscuit tins then they won’t last long. No sure if the Comisioner would take that as a reason for no running a route as registered. Might be in for a wee visit to see her?

Traffic Commissioner doesn't seem to bother anyone these days aside from rare occasions, not been the same since the pandemic.