Hence the panel at his hearing found conclusively against him and unanimously rejected his application to be discharged from hospital. For the next few years at least, we have done all we need to do. The authorities can continue to detain him because they are satisfied that it is still necessary.
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"Whole life" prison term
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Xenophon PCDGS
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I hope you are not inferring that the discussion between cmjcf and I is acrimonious.
My respect for you both as a moderator and the highly-respected resident RailUK football pundit (with a "Cherries" connection) would forbid me to ever even consider such a thing..
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You will have to excuse my layman's understanding of the whole situation.
Basically the ECHR have outlawed the practice of "whole life imprisonment", which to many of the general public who are simpletons like me will mean that "life no longer means life" because somewhere down the line there is a possibility the criminal could get away with something what many would see as less than the deserved consequence of their crimes, through one of these reviews.
This to many people is not fair, to the deceased or to the family of the deceased, and sends out the wrong signal in the context of law and order.
This is not because people just believe whatever they are told, contrary to what you think.
No, they have outlawed the whole life tariff.
Please stop presuming to know what "many people" think.
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OK, "whole life tariff".
If you don't want to believe me then that is your choice. A quick look around many websites will show you that I am not the only one with a similar opinion. No, not everyone will be as fluent as you in the technicalities and the exact details of every little word, and people might get one or two things wrong in the process, but the underlying principles of what I said in the previous post doesn't change. You might think that everyone with a similar opinion to the one I have is influenced by the gutter press or have no independent thinking skills, or lack any appreciation for the real truth, but that is a quite prejudiced view if I may.
Clearly whatever I say on this subject you will object to. I am going to leave it here, as I have said all I need to.
How dare you.
You, in this very thread have accused the whole population of being "thick".
For everyone you disagree with, your default position is to assume they have been somehow co-opted by the press:
And yet, you have the nerve to suggest that we are dictating to people how they should think.
I have never been so disgusted by a post on this forum before.
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Xenophon PCDGS
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I feel that this particular thread has been used by one certain member in a way that has greatly offended many other forum members and I second the comment that you have made above.
Perhaps it may be time for the moderators to consider locking this thread before any further bad feeling can be caused.
The point of the whole life tariff is to ensure that the prisoner spends the rest of their life in prison.
Anything that waters this down is derogating from a whole life tariff.
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My apologies.
We live in a democracy yet have no influence over the law at times. It frustrates me.
I think that both sides have had ample opportunity to make their point of view heard. As such I'm going to lock this thread. If anyone has something significant and new to add then feel free to get in touch and the staff team will consider reopening it.
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