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[387star]

How will these be replaced and when. What might this mean for voyagers as something will have to be done about their length. Dft replacement?

 

[MCR247]

Who said they were being replaced?

 

[mumrar]

Who said they were being replaced?

Well, I think the IEP is supposed to be the replacement isn't it?

 

[ainsworth74]

Well, I think the IEP is supposed to be the replacement isn't it?

Probably, but seeing the ECML and GWML are both in line to get them first its probably a bit early to be talking about what is going to happen on XC. Especially as we don't really know what's happening with IEP on ECML and GWML yet!

 

[387star]

Well what about midland mainline electrification has this been dropped? We now know hsts wont be life extended so...

 

[mumrar]

Well what about midland mainline electrification has this been dropped? We now know hsts wont be life extended so...

I do believe that the MML electrification was one of the first things to be announced as cancelled by the new "don't blame us, blame Labour" coalition government at the spending review.

 

[MCR247]

Even though it's a lot easier to electrify the MML but there you go...

 

[route:oxford]

Well what about midland mainline electrification has this been dropped? We now know hsts wont be life extended so...

Well, won't officially be life extended - but you can be sure that they'll be sold off to the highest bidder.

The highest bidder may choose to scrap them... Or they could "Chilternise" the best of the Mk3s and further life extend the 43s.

 

[YorkshireBear]

the FGW are getting life extended arnt they to continue to do the Devon and Cornwall runs? with IEP Bi mode doing rest?

 

[Zoe]

the FGW are getting life extended arnt they to continue to do the Devon and Cornwall runs? with IEP Bi mode doing rest?

They were refurbished in 2006/2007. If they are to remain in service in 2020 though, due to disability discrimination regulations modifications will be needed.

 

[starrymarkb]

I don't think anyone knows what's going to happen. The TOCs would rather have a straight EMU/DMU then an expensive and complex Bi-Mode IEP.

Out of interest how are the SNCF Bi-Mode AGCs doing, I understand they had issues at the start but are they bedding in OK?*


*Mind you a lot of SNCF units seem overly complex - case in point is the 2 coach railcar with *SIX* engines (4 for traction and 2 for hotel power) - http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_72500

 

[swt_passenger]

I do believe that the MML electrification was one of the first things to be announced as cancelled by the new "don't blame us, blame Labour" coalition government at the spending review.

I don't think it was that straight forward. The original NR electrification strategy made the GWML and MML both high priorites. Then Labour decided to jump in and announce that the GWML and NW would be done first, and MML would go on the back burner.

The ConDems then said they'd review whether of not the MML was actually the better choice, but then confirmed they'd basically carry on with Labour's plans.

I don't think it is really possible to say that the MML has been 'cancelled' under those circumstances. Various road schemes have definitely been formally cancelled, but you can't cancel a project that has never been announced IMHO.

 

[387star]

I thought electrification was to be announced this year for mml? And the voyagers will clearly need lengthening or replacing. Iep would make sense. The current refurbishments are only meant to last a decade

 

[swt_passenger]

I thought electrification was to be announced this year for mml?

I think you mean rumoured surely? It has never been announced by DfT.