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overthewater

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Its not just Stagecoach who are having trouble in Dundee...

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/new...dundee-lost-cost-cutting-bus-shake-announced/

A major shake-up of bus routes in Dundee and surrounding areas could see some underperforming services slashed.

Several busses could be removed from the streets, while others could have their routes heavily amended in an effort to save money.

The proposals, which would come into effect in August, if approved by the Traffic Commissioner, would, however, see new busses introduced on some key routes.

Both Xplore Dundee and Stagecoach have outlined significant changes and have admitted that some areas will see a reduced service.

The proposals include the complete removal of six busses – the number 4, 14, 201, 203, 205 and 208 services – which will affect customers in the Dryburgh, West End, Douglas and Broughty Ferry areas.

West End Councillor Richard McCready said the proposals made the case for bus regulation and said services “should be run in the interests of passengers, not only in the interests of shareholders”.

He said: “Dundee City Council does not run bus services but it does provide the infrastructure for bus services and does subsidise many services in the city when it thinks that there is a social need.

“Increasingly, commercial bus companies are only interested in running profitable services and claim that they cannot cross subsidise services.

“This also means that for the elderly, the young and those with mobility problems, increasingly it is anything but a ‘service’ which they are being offered.”

Fellow West End Councillor Fraser Macpherson said that while he could see improvements, other service changes would be to the detriment of residents.

He has already been in contact with council officials to ask that they call upon the bus companies to rethink the proposals.

Stagecoach East Scotland managing director Andrew Jarvis said: “Unfortunately, no change is not an opt

“The reality is that we’re faced with a situation where factors outside our control mean there are less passenger journeys and less money to pay the costs of running these bus services.”

Changes would take effect on August 15, to coincide with the new school year and include:
 
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Changes would take effect on August 15, to coincide with the new school year and include:

Xplore Dundee:

Service 4 – Dryburgh to City Centre via LocheeThis hourly service will be withdrawn in its entirety.

5 – Ninewells to Barnhill. The service will be taken out of Tom McDonald Way and the western extremity of the Perth Road.

14 – Douglas to Ninewells. This service will stop being a cross-city service and will operate between The Stack and Douglas.

23 – New hourly service linking Asda Kirkton, Woodside, City Centre, Perth Road, Lochee, Dryburgh and St Marys.

24 – This service will be withdrawn and some sections of the route will be covered by new services.

25 – New off-peak service will link Scott Street, Tullideph Road and Elmwood Road to Asda.

27 – New service linking Douglas (Balunie Drive), Mid Craigie, City Centre, Hilltown and Ardler.

30/31/51 – services to Liff via Ninewells

35 – Proposed off-peak service will link Dryburgh, The Stack, Menzieshill, Ninewells and Asda Myrekirk.

Minor timing changes to other services, 9/10, 18, 22, 28/29, 32/33.

Stagecoach:

16 – Proposed hourly service between Perth and Dundee.

39 – The Arbroath to Dundee service to be extended through the city centre and across to Fife.

42 – The current registration will be deregistered but an improved service registered in its place.

Service 42 will run every 15 minutes from Tayport and hourly from St Andrews.

The Cupar section is withdrawn and replaced by revised X53/X54 services.

X42 – Will be deregistered but new service X53 will effectively replace it between Kirkcaldy and Dundee city centre.

X53 – New service operating over much of the X42 route.

X54 – Revised to operate via Cupar rather than the A92.

59 – Changes to weekday service with short working journeys to Piperdam withdrawn.

75 – Paring back of timetable and loss of late afternoon services. This will have an impact on Dundee Road, Broughty Ferry and upper Grange Road.

77 – The service between the city centre and Invergowrie/Kingoodie via the Hawkhill and Perth Road is withdrawn. The revised Service 39 will link to Gauldry.

88 – Service that is funded by Sainsbury’s. It’s understood that a new operator is being sought to replace Stagecoach.

236 – The Mill o’ Mains to City Centre via Linlathen service not to be retained.

202 – The Kirkton to city centre route to be operated by Stagecoach.

204 – Service to be operated by Stagecoach.

206 – Service to be operated by Stagecoach.

236 – Service to be operated by Moffat & Williamson. No change to timetable.

201 – Service to be withdrawn given decision by Xplore Dundee to introduce commercial Service 27.

203 – Service to be withdrawn given decision by Xplore to introduce commercial Service 23.

205 – Service to be withdrawn given decision by Xplore to introduce commercial Service 35.

208 – Service to be withdrawn given decision by Xplore Dundee to introduce commercial Services 23 and 27.

So if "The proposals include the complete removal of six busses – the number 4, 14, 201, 203, 205 and 208 services"...

...four of those (201, 203, 205 and 208) are tendered services being replaced by new commercial services...

...one of the remaining two services is being reduced (not withdrawn) whilst the other service is being partly replaced by new commercial services?

Not quite as terrible as the Courier make out!

Yet the Invergowrie area barely gets a mention (77 withdrawn, 16 reduced down to hourly) - isn't that a bigger story?
 

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Not quite as terrible as the Courier make out!
A two-bit local rag over-exaggerating a story in a bid to lure viewers in to inflate the page view figure it uses to woo advertisers?! Heaven forbid... :lol:
 

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To be fair to the Courier its not a two bit local rag, its has daily edition including sundays, but of late there been rather twisted in reporting the facts about these bus changes across Tayside and Fife.
 

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To be fair to the Courier its not a two bit local rag, its has daily edition including sundays, but of late there been rather twisted in reporting the facts about these bus changes across Tayside and Fife.

A local rag is a two-bit rag by definition. Not only can the reporter not even spell 'buses' correctly, nor can the sub-editor, assuming there is one in the first place.
 

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No wonder Dundee has trouble with the bus network:
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/216617/dundee-highest-number-car-owners-uk/

A new survey has shown Dundee has the highest rate of car ownership in the UK.

Dundee has a higher rate of car-ownership than anywhere else in the UK, with over 81% of the eligible population having access to a vehicle.

The survey has also unveiled Dundee as one of the easiest places in Scotland to travel in.

While it might be regarded as unlucky for some, Dundee placed 13th on the Easy Travel Index list of 33 UK towns and cities.

The survey, conducted by the ESP group, examined how easy it was to use public transport in the city, and residents’ attitudes to public transport and car use.

The findings were presented to MP’s on Wednesday at a reception in Westminster as part of an investigation in to future transport use in the country.

Edinburgh was found to be the easiest city to travel in across the UK and York was deemed the best city to start a long distance journey from.

Research also found that more than 70% of Dundee residents would choose to take the car for local trips as opposed to public transport, more than any other Scottish city.

Dr Steve Cassidy, director of future travel at ESP group, said that Dundee’s position as a “digital city” could explain why public transport use was viewed positively.

He said: “People in Dundee appear to have access to the internet that is above the national average.

“It is wholly possible that people find travelling in Dundee easier because of access to travel apps and mobile technology that allows them to find where they are going more easily.

“The Easy Travel Index offers some real insights into the state of travel in the UK.

“With over half of the British public of the view that public transport does not meet their needs, and some common problems needing to be addressed, however, there are many opportunities to for cities to improve their performance.

“We will be repeating this research on an annual basis and I look forward to seeing some of those cities towards the bottom of the Easy Travel Index improve their rankings.”
 
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